From Cancer to Healing: The Shift That Changed Everything | Shruti Sethi | 197

What if the hardest moment of your life wasn’t the end… but the beginning of your transformation?

In this powerful episode of Manders Mindset, host Amanda Russo sits down with Shruti, a cancer survivor, author, and holistic health coach, to share her deeply personal journey through adversity, healing, and self-discovery. From growing up feeling misunderstood to navigating a high-pressure career and a painful divorce, Shruti opens up about the moments that shaped her long before a life-changing cancer diagnosis at just 34.

Together, Amanda and Shruti explore the powerful connection between mindset, emotional health, and physical well-being. Through honest storytelling and transformative insights, Shruti reveals how suppressed emotions, chronic stress, and low self-worth impacted her life and how choosing faith, gratitude, and intentional daily practices helped her shift from surviving to truly thriving. This conversation is a reminder that healing doesn’t just happen physically… it starts from within.

💡 In this episode, listeners will discover:

🧠 How mindset, stress, and emotional health can shape physical well-being
 💔 The impact of suppressed emotions and low self-worth over time
 ⚡ How a cancer diagnosis became a turning point instead of an ending
 🙏 The role of faith, gratitude, and discipline in the healing process
 🌿 How yoga, breathwork, and mindfulness support recovery
 🔥 The shift from surviving to thriving through adversity
 🤝 Why community and support are essential during and after illness
 📖 How Shruti turned her journey into a mission to help others heal

⏰ Timeline Summary:

 [03:00] Growing up in a large family while feeling alone and misunderstood
 [08:30] Ambition, leadership, and emotional suppression during childhood
 [14:30] Transition into a fast paced fashion career and high-stress lifestyle
 [20:30] Marriage struggles, separation, and hitting rock bottom
 [24:30] Receiving a cancer diagnosis at 34 during a difficult life chapter
 [30:30] Shifting perspective: from “why me?” to taking responsibility
 [36:00] The role of gratitude, faith, and mindset during healing
 [42:00] Discovering yoga, mindfulness, and holistic healing practices
 [47:30] Life after cancer: helping others and building a healing community

Transcript

Welcome And Meet Shruti

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Manders and Mindset Podcast, where you'll find both monologue and interviews of entrepreneurs, coaches, healers, and a variety of other people. Where your host, Amanda Roosevelt, will discuss her own mindset and perspective, and her guests' mindset and perspective on the world around us. Manders and her guests will help explain to you how shifting your mindset will shift your life.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Welcome to Manders Mindset, so we explore the power of shifting your mindset to shift your life. I'm your host, Amanda Russo, and I'm here today with Stifty Stephen. And she has such a powerful journey. She's an author, a cancer coach, a holistic nutritionist. And I am so excited for you guys to hear her journey and how she shifted her mindset. Thank you so much for joining me. Thank you, Amanda. Who would you say Shruti is at the core?

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Oh, it's a beautiful question. I often wonder, and it keeps shifting and it keeps changing, but at the core, I think what I am here and what I'd represent myself as pure love, pure energy, who wants to transform people's life, have transformative experiences myself, and transform people's life for good. So I think at the core level, I am love. I represent love.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Oh, that's beautiful. I love that. Would you say you've always represented love? Never. And not in the class.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

I was absolutely brutal. I was, you know, this one aggressive girl who was who wanted like who wanted to snatch everything from the universe or from God to fight with God and just was very Of course I was fearless. I I was fearless. But I was not someone who was very compassionate or looking into what other needs are. I wanted something, you know, I have to get my needs first. I I was the opposite of treading love. Or I I wouldn't even say self-love, it would say just my team has to win. It's more egocentric rather than giving or sort of a thing where ego is not to be coming in between. So I it was a very transformative journey which I had, as you were mentioning, through cancer and all, which made me realize that it's the deep core and the source, when you start transforming yourself, and it's still I'm still on a transformative journey, is that every soul, everyone, we are so connected, each and every one of us, despite of our religion and backgrounds. We come from the same source and we are connected. And it we all in the deep sense are represent love, we need love, we we crave for love, nothing but love from from universe, from God, or from your loved ones. So I think each and everyone has that. It's just hidden somewhere.

Childhood In A Joint Family

SPEAKER_01 3:22

I get what you mean. Can you take us down memory lane? Tell us a little bit about your family dynamic, your childhood. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

So actually, I grew up in a typical, if you say, Indian family background where we lived as a joint family, and we were like all my uncles, aunts, and we were all together, almost nine children living in a large house, having a lot of space, and uh to we used to play together, eat together, go to school together. So there was a lot of uh different, say, personalities coming together with elders and the and my father's brothers and all coming together. So I always had such a I used to see different people and different dynamics playing, you know, the egos playing out, or people who were there was also a lot of love, no doubt. But there was a lot of um comparisons, they were a sort of in doubt. In even if people didn't compare, I used to compare, or I used to like I used I thought that I was pretty suppressed because maybe I was a black sheep of the family, but I had different visions and ideas about how I wanted to live my life, and I couldn't really uh was accepted as such. I could see even if they didn't say anything, the energy. I always wanted to be by myself and just be in my thoughts, but there was some mismatch and my family dynamics. Of course, we've seen a lot of fights. I don't say I come from a dysfunctional family, I can't say that word, but I come from someone who was not communicating properly, and that I felt a lot later on in my life, which I enacted was proper communication, where people don't offend and having chats together, resolving things together, which was not there. And I I still seen a void of that. That had it been that you know we would have really spoken about what we wanted and not really got into oh, you have this is the path, you have to go through it and you have to take these certain decisions. I think it would have been a lot more different, different problems.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

Now, you mentioned nine kids. Well how many how many were your siblings? Two.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

I'm the oldest siblings, and I had one brother. I have one brother and sister who are younger to me, but they were their own personalities. They were their own, um, they had their own things going on. But I was never very deeply connected till the time I got married, and I really was like I spoke to my sister and brother once about what what I was going through. It was very later on in life where I started communicating my feelings. Otherwise, we were pretty disconnected as to what's happening and all that.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

So you lived with your cousins as well. So it was nine kids. How was that in your childhood, having just so many kids there?

SPEAKER_02 6:44

If I look back now, it was super fun. It was definitely, you know, because we have such good company and you don't need anything. And we used to cycle together, we used to go for maybe picnics together, school together. So we had like different people and we used to always have help in the sense that if we wanted to go to our elders, we used to get some help in some assignment or homework or etc. That was a lot of fun. But there was also, I mean, I always felt to be very frank with you, I felt alone, I felt not understood well from my family, from my cousins, from my brother, from my sister. And uh maybe it was my own ego which was shadowing me or my energy, which I couldn't really uh respond to properly, or I didn't communicate properly, but I did feel that I wanted to just I I wanted to run away, actually. A lot of times I wanted to run away from that restricted household, and I wanted to lie and wanted to own my my own things, which I did eventually, but it felt constrained, it felt restricted, it felt not communicated, yeah, living. Although it was a lot of fun, and now I am very grateful that I've got that upbringing of uh have you know when you live with each other, you start to even tolerate uh tolerate each other, which is a very key element which people are lacking these days. They just can't tolerate anything, they don't have patience, they don't have any understanding, which I have developed for sure.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

But uh yeah, I mean there are pros and cons of living in a joint family, I'm sure. I agree what you mentioned about people can't handle things like being around so many people, you know, even if they weren't your family members, and whether you got along with them or not, you know, that's a lot of people to live with and to share a living space with. How was that cooling for you?

SPEAKER_02 8:50

My god, cooling was a lot of fun. I was always the head girl and you know, the captain of so many teams. I was very good in sports, I was good in extracurricular activities, I was a good speaker, I won so many competitions, but also I was uh like I had good friends. But as you say, I was a very as a go-getter. I used to shout at people as the captain when things were not getting done, not in a bad way, but I was very, very highly motivated and wanted to achieve, wanted to come first all the time, and was pretty aggressive and was very, very like, you know, I I would also say I was I didn't care. I was very like, I didn't care. I was carefree about other people's feelings, or even like I would just say things out to the in my team, but when I was in my house, I couldn't. I mean, there was such a contrast. So as a leader, I was fantastic, but uh as an individual, I was suppressing from my childhood, sure.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

I don't do they call it high school in India? Yes, yeah, and so what was next steps for you after that?

Fashion Career Divorce And Diagnosis

SPEAKER_02 10:00

So after high school, uh, I was in college and I hated my college. I just didn't like I wanted to m move to some other city, but my parents were so protective, they didn't let me go. And I just hated those three years. I was thinking in and I didn't want to do anything. Though my subjects, though I chose art and subject, and I chose painting. It was it that was fun. I just didn't like I wanted to do and I I had aspirations. But then after the college, I actually moved to a different big city like New York and Mumbai, and I pursued my fashion career, and I was working with a lot of fashion designers, and then I had my own label. I was working as a bridal designer, I was I had my own store, like a boutique of sorts, and I was working with Hollywood people and designed for a lot of celebrities and stuff. So that was like a very glamorous lifestyle, which I did have late nights and a lot of stress and partying and just and obviously then at that stage I got married as well. But that was a complete city life, which which was very stressful indeed, and it was also fun. So and now how long did you have the boutique for? I ran the boutique for almost three, three and a half years, and then uh actually also my start my relationship started getting sore with my husband, and I decided we decided to take just live separately. And in that time, on that time, I got the diagnosis of cancer when I was going through a divorce. So that was a very, very tough time. I mean, I was like, oh god, I don't have money, I don't have a relationship, I don't have a house, I don't have my parents, my parents have lived in US, so now I'm in US, but uh it was a very difficult time. As I said, I don't know what what am I living for, what and now and when you get I me exactly 10 years back, I got the diagnosis. So I'm 10 years cancer free now. So yeah, so it's uh it's been a journey, right? These 10 years, and how I got these the diagnosis almost 10 years back. But it was chilling, like chilling to the spine, the diagnosis. Because you're only 34 years old, and you get the diagnosis and you don't know what to do, like you anyways, your life is just spinning down, and over this your health also uh gets bad and bad, and um it was just like as if you know the earth has started it stopped moving, and I don't have in I don't know where to go. That was the kind of feeling. So the cancer diagnosis was one of the things which was like, okay, now what? And why me? That again the ego was stopping. Why me? Why the hell? What the what does God want for me? Um you don't get the answer so soon, and you have to go through the process. It's it is a difficult moment, and I can truly understand when people are getting devastated and they ask these questions and why they ask. As such, I always thought that okay, I am healthy, and that that time I realized that okay, maybe I'm not really I compartmentalized the mind and body and your soul. Like, okay, these are different entities, and everything is connected. Your cancer just doesn't happen all of a sudden, all chronic issues take time, and maybe in my stress always triggers it. So, all of these things I learned in my journey. What is stress? Like, why people take stress? Everybody takes stress. So, why what was that triggers for me? Maybe it was my relationship, maybe it was those suffrest emotions I've I had buried for years and years, and I've never communicated them properly. And maybe my you know, when I was I had a relationship, it was not I thought I'm not, I'm absolutely not taking care of my own needs and giving way too much just because I love someone. And uh it was it was so bad that I had to go through torture, like physical torture, mental torture, and I didn't understand how does that person who you love so much can torture you. So that realization, you know, my self-worth. I think that issue was started when you asked the low self-esteem. There's no self-worth sprouted when I was a child, and it it was way till in my 30s and late 30s that I understood that okay, I need to work on my self-esteem and self-worth. Which I started doing and I now realize that okay, you know, I these are the things which can really mentally affect me.

Gratitude Mindset And Daily Discipline

SPEAKER_01 15:06

Now, when you got the diagnosis, what was your first step? What'd you do?

SPEAKER_02 15:12

First step, of course, you have to go to the doctors, get your test done, and do the whole shebang and understand. And you you when you go to the doctor, they never ask. They tell you, okay, this could be genetic, but I didn't have any as such cancer gene or anything. It was lymphatic cancer, which is the cancer of the immune system, the WBC cancer. So again, I was fighting it out that no, I don't want to go through chemo, and I lose my hair, and I don't want to go the conventional therapies, etc. etc. And I'm gonna do it my way. I did like succeed when I changed my diet and my lifestyle, and I went, came into mindfulness and yoga and understanding about breath, etc. But I I was carrying a lot of hatred, uh anger, frustration still for my ex-husband that because of him and because of my parents, because of this circumstance, uh, I'm into this. I was not taking responsibility of my own doing or of my of cancer. And then when it when I realized it was like, okay, you know, the cancer grew to stage three, and then I had no other choice but to take conventional therapy. But on the same hand, I opened my arms, I let my guard down, I let my ego down, and I really started embracing each day as it comes. I said, what the hell? Like, you know, life is so fragile, anything can happen. Let me just enjoy my life, and whatever the circumstances are, I'm going to be peaceful. I made it very clear to me, no matter what happens, I am going to find some sort of happiness and peace throughout the day. Whether it could be just, you know, having moments of gratitude, I'm alive, I'm getting up, I have my mom and dad now next to me, I have some people who love me no matter what. And it's a it's basically a habit which you have to eventually form. It doesn't come easy, it is not at all easy. But you have to change your if you want to achieve or if you want to really transform, you have to start with gratitude, or you have to start by just choosing something, one thing which is better, and just keep doing it as a discipline. Discipline thing, you know, as how military people do it. They don't think too much, they just do it. And eventually it becomes a habit. So I started doing that for myself and still do it. Like it's now in my subconscious mind that I have to get up and 10 things I'm grateful for. No matter what. It's my bed, it's my it's my pillow. Find 10 things you have to be grateful for. And then of course it it so happened that you know life started feeling very easy. Things started getting easy, like right people started entering in my life, the right doctors, the right healers, the right practitioners, the right holistic approaches. And then within a few months, the cancer was like in four keyboards, the cancer was gone. Because I realized all of that. And I start I worked on it. It's not that I didn't work. And then I was uh I didn't take radiation. I had a strong intuition that I'm healed. And it's been 10 years now that I'm cancer free. I never went again to the doctors. Of course, I do my test and I keep myself healthy, and all the testings and everything are being done. But I realized something that if you want to heal truly, you have to believe that you can, you have that power, and you have that, and the source is with you. And then just do the things, don't put your logic into a play, and then you see how magicals happen. So that's what happened. And I'm very grateful that I have gone through what I've gone through. Cancer is has definitely been a life-changing event in my life, and I'm pretty grateful that I got that opportunity to transform my life, and I'd live so with love and with open arms and embrace whatever is coming my way, whether it's good, whether it's bad.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Now, you mentioned in in the forum that you consider there's only one way to beat cancer. What would you say the one way is?

SPEAKER_02 19:43

I think the one way is to choose. I always tend people, that's a beautiful saying, it's not my it's not whatever, it's a quote that uh life is not what happens to you, but what you choose it to be. So if you want to be cancer free, first of all, make a choice that you will be, and whatever way it could be, it could be convention medicine way, it could be nutrition, holistic way, but you have to choose and really have faith that that's very powerful. And that means I think you know, I it keeps changing now. The more I see people, the more I coach people, I know that the power of the mind and the power of your thoughts is extremely powerful, it's so powerful more than your nutrition, more than your medicine. So I believe believe that the power of feedback, the power of um your own mind. Healing within you isn't more important than choosing anything else.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

I get that, and I've never had cancer myself, so I know I can't speak on it, but I get what you mean. You've gotta have the faith that you at some point will be cancer free, regardless of how.

Turning A Journey Into A Book

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Yes, that's something which even you know what I what I also feel is like um we should not be attached to we manifest, like a lot of people manifest, manifest good health. But we should not be attached to the whole thing that I'm gonna be cancer free and I'm gonna beat it. I'm gonna beat it. Like even small phrases like beat or it's it has a negative. I never call myself cancer survivor. Surviving is what I'm a thriver, I've thrived it, I'm living. So I always tell people that you know, even the smallest thing, like your emotions is so important. Like, how are you feeling? You know, when you say I'm gonna beat cancer, I'm gonna beat cancer. Like there is a difference, right? There is a difference between both of these. So you have to beat that. You have to believe it from your core, and even if you want to pretend but live it out, I completely

SPEAKER_01 22:21

We agree. Now, I'm curious. The book that you wrote, The Healing Power Within, did you write that after you were died? Yes. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

Like it took me a lot of years to write it. I'm not a writer, but uh a lot of my clients, my family, my friends were after me that you should pin down your thoughts. And I also thought that, you know, it's good because you meet and you like when you talk to people, they have so many questions, they have so many doubts. And when you see a real story talking about their journey, you get a lot of confidence. You get okay, this person has already read the path. Why not? Even I read so many books of cancer thrivers, and it gave me a lot of hope, and it gave me a lot of uh, you know, you learn from others' mistakes. So I wrote it because not only just to so that people could or to get famous, it's something which truly from the heart, and people who are suffering or caregivers or want to understand more about cancer can read it and understand. You know, I'm getting given such a life examples of mind, body, spirit, so on, everything, integration. How do you find out things? And uh what diet I have gone through, what doctors I've met, and what they've stalled, my doctors, even their perception about cancer. So it's and my client journeys, like people who are really beaten fourth stage cancer, last stage cancer, and karma. There are a lot of stories like that, and it should be well spread, and it should people should know about it.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Now, I'm curious, and I ask everybody I speak to who's written a book. Have you always thought about writing a book?

Coaching Support After Treatment Ends

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Actually, you know, I used to write a lot since I was a kid. I used to write a lot. A lot, like in journals. I used to write stories, I used to write, I used to love, like my I have like I don't know how many books um since I was a child. Like I used to love collecting diaries, it's a ritual, like every year I'm gonna get buy some five, six diaries and write things down. So um there was some sort of streak in me to write. And when I got cancer, I was on the journey, and you know, I was just having conversations with God, and I told him that you know, if I get sick, if I get cancer free, I'm definitely going to share my journey. And I don't know what, but I said I don't know the path yet, but I am going to do something about it. And eventually, I think that was a seed which was sown, and right, people started coming. You know, I just got my coaching clients, I got my people hired me for speaking gigs, people hired me for as a health coach in the corporate form, which was like, what do I do? I am not even qualified for doing such certain things. But I think it was my passion and my openness and my willingness to let life happen to me and understand, okay, just let's see what happens. Well, I was a fashion designer, and after cancer, I was just living and enjoying life, and I took a break. Absolutely wanted to take a break for my body and healing and see what I want to do. And then just the right things happened, and I then I started learning from doctors, and I enrolled in courses in nutrition, and that's how I came into this.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

That's amazing. That's amazing. I get why you did though, especially after the journey. Now, I'm curious. You work with clients now as well who have cancer. And how what's the biggest way that you help them on their journey?

SPEAKER_02 26:27

I think first of all, there's a calming their mind six because there is so much information out there. Hundreds of like you go to Google, you go to Chat GPT, you can get hundreds of information and what to choose, what is right for you, what is not, what kind of diets should they be doing after chemo, what protocols should they be applying, should they detox, should they not? The biggest fear is also, it's like, you know, when you have cancer, it's the biggest fear is of it coming back. Where it's still dangling, it's like dangling on your head that sword. And most people, you know, cancer once you finish the cancer treatment, you're left alone. But that dangling sword is always there, so that is the biggest fear for most of people. So, how do you live fearlessly? Because you know, it is a very hard and difficult journey. I mean, chemo is not easy. The test going to the doctors and going through the whole thing is absolutely draining, and it stays with you for a long time. So, how do you get once the treatment's over? What do you do? You are just left alone. So I have a community where people can ask questions and it's like a nice group coaching we do and we meditate together. There is always something going on. So I like to you know facilitate a community where I can be of some uh shared useful resources or what can be done post-cancer, different kinds of cancer. So I think it's a very important goal for for a community, like you know, communities like this to help people and people could reach out.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

That's amazing. I bet the community aspect is so helpful. And then seeing other people going through it or haven't gone through it.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Yeah, I mean, there are so many people who are uh who live alone or don't have any support system and they feel very lonely. And that's something which is very like a kid or it's more dangerous than feeling lonely and feeling depressed, more dangerous than anything else. So when there's a community, when there are people together going through the same thing, gives you some certain hope and feels that okay, you're not we want this.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

No, that makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense. Would you say the yoga and the meditation and all the mindfulness helped you on your cancer journey?

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, I was never into yoga, I couldn't even sit still. Uh not into that at all. But I think you know what yoga isn't just not about doing postures, it's also about the way you're leading your life. The breath is basically a connection between your soul and your body. So, how do you really connect with yourself? That's the first method, the breath. It's so easy, like you can connect with your own self. And um, when you do that, you suddenly get a realization that you know stillness is so powerful. When you're still your un so many thoughts which are unwanted starts to settle down. You start to feel grounded, you start to feel more uh you're in present. That's the most important feeling which uh helped me during cancer was being present and not thinking too much about the future or the past and really embrace. And that uh that was a game changer for me, really. And I still do yoga, I still teach yoga, I still I'm a practitioner, I practice meditation, matchwork, and I also I want to learn more and more, and it it's an ancient science and wisdom, and um it's beautiful. Like if people could understand it, it is just amazing, and it is it can change lives.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

You mentioned you used to not be able to sit still. When so when did you get involved in yoga and all of that?

SPEAKER_02 30:56

Just during cancer, when I was going through chemotherapy, yeah, it was not like I never sit though. I've done courses from very good institutes, like but you know, when you're younger, you want to go to the gym or you want to do Zumba, you want to do so many other things. I was more into that, sports and stuff. But uh during cancer with Kigmo, they couldn't even like walk properly or sit. That time yoga came to a complete rescue, which made me realize that, oh wow, like yeah, it is difficult for sure, it is not an easy thing. You which as I say, it is a muscle memory, you have to build five minutes, ten minutes, eleven minutes. And once you start realize you start getting the benefits, you automatically will see that oh, I'm more inclined towards it. Let me learn more, let me learn more. The window opens. So I think during chemotherapy, exactly 10 years back, I started doing yoga, and it's been uh very much much part of my dejeur.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

That's amazing. And you said you teach it also? Yes, I do.

Yoga Breath And Staying Present

SPEAKER_02 32:07

So eventually I didn't come into teaching people uh when I do these workshops, I always make people do some sort of postures or you know, just to ground themselves. So it just happened that people were like, you know, we wanna take a class from you. And now I just teach it personally, like I have one-on-one clients and also a group class which I do it over here in Nyong, and they love it, and then yeah, it's been great. And I I love it too because I teach a very different kind of a yoga. It's not very it's uh it's connection, it's more whenever I teach, I make sure that I truly honor the practice and give that respect and not teach the very core from the very core principles.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

That's amazing. I love how that like almost almost the opposite for you. I love that. Yes. I'm curious, and I'm sure you've had many throughout your journey, throughout your life, but I'm curious what you would say is the biggest aha moment you've had in your life.

SPEAKER_02 33:21

The biggest aha moment is that you know, when one of my first clients came to me and during COVID, she had a for she had a relapse of cancer. And the doctors had given her some time, and because it was COVID and she couldn't go for a surgery, and she said that you know what, you I'm surrendering to you, and I I really want to get well, and I this is the second time and I'm having ovarian cancer, stage four, and she's really young. So I started working with her uh very diligently, and she got so well, she got absolutely well, and the doctors said that what are you doing, and it's doing you don't need a surgery anymore now. The cancer is gone. So I was like, wow, you know. I mean, I know that miracles can happen, but to facilitate such a kind of miracle, and she's still living absolutely cancer-free and living thriving, it's just so blessed that you can help others transform and help just show the way. So that was the biggest aha moment. And it was a very difficult case, like a very difficult case because she had thyroid, she had some other multiple issues. So we worked on her mind, her body, like complete transformation of her lifestyle, what was in her kitchen, to what she was applying on her skin, to what was she eating, to what thoughts and her physical activity. That was something which was an aha moment for me. I mean, I can never forget when she she called me from the doctor's office and she told me the first you're the first person I'm telling you. And I was like, wow, this is amazing. Like, really.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

That must feel really great for you. I'm sure with all your clients, you know, like even if it's not something as big, but like how you are helping them look at stuff even differently.

Questions To Ask At The Doctor

SPEAKER_02 35:26

Yeah, I would say, you know, I sleep nicely at night because it knowing that someone's going doing better just because you've helped them, and it is all because I'm maybe I'm chosen one of the chosen persons can show other people some path. And I'm very grateful for that. And I'm that's why I like it it all draws back. Had I not been gone go uh, had I not got cancer and not gone through that journey myself, I wouldn't be that person which is more giving and more loving. It's everything happens for a reason, and it is always for the good. So you have to have patience to understand you know what you're going through right now. The answers will come.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

I think that's so, so key to have patience. You know what you're with, no matter what it is, like, and especially any chronic illness, even if it's something other than cancer, like having the patience is so important. Yes, truly. Now, I'm curious, especially now that you work with clients who have gone through cancer and have it, and you've had it yourself. What would you suggest for someone who's been diagnosed with this and they're going to the doctors for the first time? Any tips for them?

SPEAKER_02 36:47

Absolutely. So there are some key questions that you should ask them about uh what kind of first of all, what kind of treatment are they going through? What how many cycles of chemo radiation and are there any other kind of tests they can do with? Are there any kind of complications when they suffer with? What kind of uh alternative therapies they can? I mean, I'm the I know most of the doctors are opposed to holistic treatments, but now people are changing, doctors had this some sort of you know, opening and then sort of understand now what holistic and that's some integrative oncologists to understand that what kind of alternative treatments can they do? How what kind of supplementations can I take with my medication? And that's very important because you what you the chemo kills, it kills the good cells, it destroys you your healthy tissue, so you have to be taking extra supplementation. Is there any kind of support system? Are do you because you kind of get anxious and stressful? Is there any kind of other sub support groups or support system do you offer in your facility? Because you might want to talk with a nurse, you might not want to talk to any of the other because these are the three questions you have to go through and always work with someone, like integrative coach or a cancer coach, where you can get answers to silliest questions because everything counts during cancer. Every single thing counts. Not any I mean, not a single question is stupid, but you want to get more aware about your a drug or your condition, and most importantly, it's not just about cancer or beating cancer, it's also living cancer-free. That plays and real plays on your mind that okay, you know what after. Like it just it's there's so much going on in the cancer patient's mind. What about my family? What about my kids? What about this and this? So you need a proper coaching. And I had I mean I was very lucky to get coaching from I had not a mentor's doing cancer. It really helped.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

That makes sense. Thank you. Thank you for that advice. I appreciate that. Now, I want to transition back a tad, but you mentioned not doing radiation. And I'm curious what led to you declining that.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

So the first thing is that I did a lot of research about so my tumor was around my neck over here, and I had done so much research, and I understood that if I take radiation around my neck, it is definitely going to happen my thyroid. And I don't want I already I I sense that I have a little bit of thyroid deficiency because my hands and feet were always cold, but I never came out in the blood, and I didn't want to do that at all, and uh, I know that radiation could reach first of all create a lot of complications, and because I had 99% resolution in my cancer, and I also took the help and advice of other holistic doctors, and uh and I took a second opinion, I took a third opinion, I took a fourth opinion, and some there were mixed reviews, there were mixed views, but again I just sat with myself, I literally sat with myself in meditation, and there was a deep voice, and there was very strong voice which is studying your healed. You just need to relax and just heal, let's take time off from these drugs. And I told my mom that no, I'm I'm gonna just take some time. I said no, I said to the doctor, if in six months, if any I'm gonna be very diligent and do my due diligence and come to you and get it checked, and everything, if there are any signs of can you come back, then we'll we'll know what it is. And then I actually left the city and I went to a quieter city to just heal that and had to never look back.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

That makes sense in terms of where it was and the effects of it.

SPEAKER_02 41:12

And you also have to be you most people are very like I was I said I was fearless, like I I took a chance. I I don't say this to everyone, but the more knowledge you have, and there are so many now integrative practices and holistic paths which you can choose, and I wish I knew more of it the time I got diagnosed. I think I would have never again taken conventional therapy, but since I've gotten it and I know that okay, you know, I had to go through because then I people could relate to it, I could relate to it, and I could help people. But there are hundreds and other different ways, if not somebody doesn't want to go through conventional ways. So uh it's not a medical advice, but I'm saying that you should have knowledge about it.

Rapid Fire Answers And Life Rules

SPEAKER_01 42:01

I completely agree about that, having the knowledge, asking the questions, and doing doing your own research before making any decisions. I I completely agree. Well, thank you so much, Ruti. Really enjoyed this.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

Thank you, Amanda. I truly enjoyed also you asked such beautiful questions and took me to memory back in my childhood from you know how I started all of in the cancer journey.

SPEAKER_01 42:31

So thank you so much. Absolutely. Have you heard of a man named Jay Shetty? Yes. I'm a big fan. He's got a podcast called On Purpose, and he ends it with two segments, and I've borrowed those two segments, and I end my podcast with those two segments as well. First segment is the many sides to us, and there's five questions, and they need to be answered in one word each. What is one word someone who was meeting you for the first time would use to describe you as peaceful? What is one word someone who knows you extremely well would use to describe you as strong? What is one word you'd use to describe yourself? A nine. That's a good question. Can you repeat it again? What is one word that if someone didn't like you or agree with your mindset would use to describe you as someone didn't like you. Headstrong. What is one word you're trying to embody right now?

SPEAKER_02 43:53

I am bodying this word called. I think again aligned.

SPEAKER_01 44:01

I want to be more and more aligned energetically. Second segment is the final five, and these can be answered in a sentence. What is the best advice you've heard or received?

SPEAKER_02 44:15

Do your own thing, forget about the world.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Why is that the best?

SPEAKER_02 44:23

Because it made me realize that people are going to talk about you no matter how good you do or what you do. It doesn't matter to them. What matters to you is how well you lived.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

I agree. What is the worst advice you've ever heard or received?

SPEAKER_02 44:43

No, I don't don't keep anything in my beverage. But if I had to choose Oh no, go go the conventional way. Go do a job, listen to your elders and do what they did. Why would you say that the worst? Because it was not about my dreams, it was living their dreams.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

What is something that you used to value that you no longer value?

SPEAKER_02 45:17

Other people's opinions.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

If you could describe what you would want your legacy to be as if someone was reading it, what would you want it to say? Impactful.

SPEAKER_02 45:31

That she impacted a lot of individuals and created a huge movement which is still helping others.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

If you could create one law in the world that everyone had to follow, what would it be? And I want to know why.

Final Wisdom How To Connect

SPEAKER_02 45:50

Whatever you have abundant off, you have to give to the person who doesn't have it. Even it could be a small thing. One thing. Why would that be the law? Because when you give and the other people receive, it is the biggest heart opener to see the other two people getting happy with what you could transform people even with one rupee or one dollar or one just a small plant if you don't have you see the the other people's face when they receive it, it's just very satisfying.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

I get that. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you so much for doing this. Absolutely. I really appreciate it. And I do just like to give it back to the guest. Any final words of wisdom you want to leave our listeners with?

SPEAKER_02 46:50

I would say is that you know, whenever if it if you're talking in terms of cancer and say cancer is not the end, or anything which you are suffering with, it is not the end. You can come out of it, you can transform your life. You just have to believe and take that one single step every day. That's it. And follow people, anything, whatever has come to your life, is teaching you a lesson or has come to transform you. So get that and start applying the new principles for your new life. Because if you want a new you, you have to build from a new perspective. So don't never think that you're alone. Always, you know, these kind of podcasts. There is so much abundance of these kinds of podcasts and what other people are doing. Listen to them and apply in your lives. And there is so much of C advisors, so please don't think that you're alone. And never think yourself as oh boy me or wipe, because that's just a face.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

Beautifully shared. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Amanda. Thank you so much. Absolutely. And if listeners want to connect with you, I know you have a website, it's I wanna health a w a n a health.com. I'll put that in the show notes as well. You have your book, The Healing Power Within. Is that on Amazon? It is on Amazon, yes. And are you active on social media if people want to connect?

SPEAKER_02 48:36

I'm active on social media. I'm on Instagram, shoot the underscore CTN, I'm on Facebook, I'm on YouTube. So whenever your listeners want to connect with me, please do drop a message.

Closing Message And Review Request

SPEAKER_01 48:47

I will link all of that in the show notes. Thank you so much. Thank you, Amanda. And thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Meander's Mindset. In case no one told you today, I'm proud of you. I'm booting for you. And you got this. As always, if you enjoyed the show, I would really appreciate it if you would leave me a five-star rating, leave a review, and share with anyone you think would benefit from that. And don't forget, you are only one nine step shift away from shifting your leg. Thanks guys, until next time.