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Living Your Unreasonable Life with Dr. Nona Djavid | 155

Amanda Russo

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What if success wasn’t about hustle... but about aligning with a vision so bold it scares you?

In this transformative episode of Manders Mindset, host Amanda Russo is joined by Dr. Nona Djavid, international speaker, mindset mentor, and the author of Elevate Your Life. With a background in neurology and chiropractic, and a career that spans entrepreneurship, energetics, and personal transformation, Dr. Nona brings a uniquely powerful perspective to what it truly takes to create a life and business by design.

Together, they explore how childhood adversity shaped Dr. Nona’s drive, what it really means to live with an “unreasonable vision,” and how shifting identity is the secret behind sustainable success. She unpacks the four-step process behind a quantum leap and opens up about her own breakdown moment that redefined her life path. This conversation is for anyone feeling stuck in burnout or on the edge of breakthrough, ready to collapse time and reclaim their freedom.

🎙️ In this episode, listeners will discover:

💥 Why quantum leaps start with an “unreasonable” vision
 💸 How scarcity mindsets secretly drive burnout and overwork
 🧠 Why 80% of success is identity and energetics—not strategy
 ⏳ How to collapse time and create a “one week a month” lifestyle
 🚪 What to do when the version of success you've built no longer fits
 🌱 How to rewire your daily identity to align with the life you desire
 🔥 The 4-step process for reinventing any area of life

⏰ Timeline Summary:

[1:32] – How early tragedy and scarcity shaped her healer’s heart
 [4:49] – From war-torn Iran to the U.S. and into entrepreneurship
 [7:23] – Building a thriving business… and burning out in the process
 [13:28] – Her teenage tutoring hustle and first taste of freedom
 [17:27] – The closet breakdown moment that changed everything
 [22:49] – Designing the “One Week a Month” freedom lifestyle
 [31:15] – Why mindset and energy outweigh strategy in business
 [37:27] – Her signature 4-step framework for quantum leaps
 [56:18] – The daily habits that anchor her identity and clarity
 [1:03:21] – A simple way to begin if you're feeling stuck or unclear

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Manders Mindset Podcast. Here you'll find both monologue and interviews of entrepreneurs, coaches, healers and a variety of other people when your host, Amanda Russo, will discuss her own mindset and perspective and her guest's mindset and perspective on the world around us. Manders and her guests will help explain to you how shifting your mindset will shift your life will help explain to you how shifting your mindset will shift your life.

Speaker 2:

Welcome back to Amanda's Mindset, where we explore the power of shifting your mindset to shift your life. I'm your host, amanda Russo, and I am so excited for today's guest. I am here today with Dr Nona Daveed, and she is an international speaker, transformational coach and the author of Elevate your Life, where she shares her seven pillars for personal transformation. With a doctorate in chiropractic and a background in neurology from UC Berkeley, she blends science with mindset and energetics. She is the creator of the One Week Month Lifestyle and the founder of part-time million-dollar business empowering high achievers to build freedom-based businesses. Dr Nona has been featured in Forbes, huffington Post, nbc News and more, and she speaks globally about entrepreneurship, mindset and post-traumatic theory, and I'm so excited to speak with her today. Thanks so much for joining me.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, amanda, I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 2:

So that's an awesome bio, but who would you say Nona is at the core?

Speaker 3:

The first thing that comes to my mind is I'm a mom of two little kids and a stepmom to a daughter. I think that's an important role that I take really seriously. But if you strip all of those roles and things that I have done, I think what's actually more important about me is the struggles that I've gone through that have allowed me to alchemize those struggles. They presented themselves as an ingredient of an alchemy to bring me into all the things that make my bio sound really interesting. Without those roles, I'm a combination of all the things that I have experienced and the things that I've gotten to do with them.

Speaker 2:

I'd love if you could take us back a little bit. Take us down memory lane, tell us about your childhood family dynamic, however deep you want to take that, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so key things in my life that have happened in my life that have happened. The earliest childhood memory that I have is when I was two and a half and my mom was pregnant with a little boy. This is not the part I remember, but when I was two and a half my mom was pregnant and the memory that I do have is of this anticipation and excitement of another sibling, from whatever point that I understood it. And the memory that's really vivid is when my dad took me to the hospital and lifted me up behind this glass window and lifted me up and was like oh, this is your little brother, like this crib over here, and I remember seeing a bunch of cribs. I guess it was like behind this window. I remember vividly everything that was in that scene. I remember the sounds, I remember the smell of the hospital. I have this visual of the cribs there. I remember my dad's lifting me up, and the reason that this memory is really vivid in my memory is because my brother actually passed away in the hospital and never made it home, and so this became a really tragic moment in my life, but also in, obviously, my parents' life. So how I related to that was when my mom was in the kitchen, I would bring her her slippers, or I would bring her my toys, or I would bring her food, because I was trying to make her happy, because she was crying uncontrollably and out of nowhere. So I do believe looking back at this particular memory was the reason why I think I was given a healer's heart or this. The struggle that I went through as I perceived my family dynamic was like I got to fix the things. Now I got to fix all of these things, like a lot of us healers and creators and practitioners do. It's had its own evolution, but now, as a 42-year-old, 43-year-old mom, it looks completely different. But that is when the seed was planted.

Speaker 3:

And one thing I should mention is I grew lived in Iran. We were in middle class, I would say. Both my parents worked really hard. I grew up in the war. Until I was seven years old, there were bombs going around and sometimes there would be sirens and we'd have to run into the basement and food was rationed and there was a lot of scarcity in that environment. But again, my parents were middle class. Things were seemingly being provided, but there was a lot of scarcity in that environment, but again, my parents were middle class, things were seemingly being provided, but there was definitely a lot of scarcity for them, even for the generation prior to them. Now everything was fine.

Speaker 3:

16-year-old me moves to the United States with my family and they basically sold everything that they had in Iran and their entire life savings. They bring it to the United States to sort of start a new life with new opportunities. Ideally, as we arrive here, we are immediately below poverty, because the money exchange, the currency, the way that it works, is okay. Now it's me, my sister and my parents and we're in a tiny little space in not the best area of town and I'm thrown into high school in that moment without knowing a word of English, already looking different than everybody else in my town, already feeling different. I mean, there was this need for fitting in.

Speaker 3:

And then the scarcity of what we're experiencing, literally survival, and I think that was another pivotal moment in my life at 16, where I recognized I had a couple of options I could either sink or I could learn how to swim, and so that was another moment in my life where, okay, this is a big lesson, packing all the scarcity that I had brought with me from Iran and getting deeper into that.

Speaker 3:

I made the decision to never be in a situation where money was an issue.

Speaker 3:

And again, even this concept has shifted in my entrepreneurial journey over the past couple of decades, because at the time I went on to build a really successful business, but everything I had built was based on scarcity, anxiety and stress and not wanting to be in the old situation, not wanting to put myself back into where my parents were or what I experienced as a 16-year-old.

Speaker 3:

And so I built this massive business and I had 13 employees and all of these and I checked off all these little boxes later on in life, after I went to chiropractic school, went to Berkeley for my degree and graduated, and I have this great business and I'm helping a lot of people and I have 13 employees, a child, I've just gotten married, a lot of people and I have 13 employees, a child I've just gotten married. So all the check boxes of what the society tells you you should be doing right to be happy and successful. I did all of that and then I had another moment where I completely burnt out in the process and I realized I had to do more of it.

Speaker 2:

You mentioned your sister came with you to the United States. Was she younger, older than you?

Speaker 3:

She was young. She is younger, she's about six years younger than me. So my mom had she lost the child multiple miscarriages, a stillborn birth and then my sister like six years later six and a half maybe, years later. Then basically about a year or two after we moved here, I skipped a year in high school and so I pretty much moved to Berkeley at the time. So my sister and I really lived completely different lives after that, and now you went to Berkeley for chiropractic school.

Speaker 2:

Was that the vision all along?

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's a good question. I went to Berkeley because that was an okay, that's a great question, berkeley. So I went to Berkeley first. I think I may have said that the opposite way. I went to Berkeley first. I got my degree in molecular cellular biology, with an emphasis in neurology, which it means it.

Speaker 3:

At the time it was like I'm going to do something in medicine, I'm going to do something, I'm going to go to dental school, I'm going to go to medical school, and I knew I wanted to do something in helping others. But even the idea of picking Western medicine or just being a medical doctor in general was another checkbox, was another thing that you know sounded good and my parents were like you should be a doctor, you should be a lawyer or something. That tuning in and being like what do I really want? I was just the A plus student in the things I was doing, without really sitting with myself or having really any awareness, which is common when you're in your twenties. So I got accepted, I applied for a dental school, got accepted into a school in New York and then, as I was building out my resume and, amanda, I haven't shared, I don't think anyone's asked me this question, so I haven't shared this.

Speaker 3:

I went to a. You know, when you apply to medical school, dental school, you have to like show you volunteered and you loved all of these things. So I go to this oral surgery situation and I passed out like I watched them get in there and do their surgery and I that was the first time I actually fainted. So I walked out of there and I was like, yeah, we're not going to dental school, that's not going to happen. I don't want to be in people's mouths and it's definitely not something.

Speaker 3:

So from there I moved forward and I was introduced to chiropractic and I loved the core of chiropractic, which is the body. Your body has the ability to heal itself and there's conversation in chiropractic about the nervous system, about the innate potential. Like you have unlimited potential. Your body can heal itself if you remove the things that are in the way, which philosophically spoke to me. My minor was philosophy, so I think I became really magnetized to chiropractic because of its philosophy and then it's kind of had its different ways of showing up in my life. I became a chiropractor, I had a pediatric practice for 10 years and then I exited that role and got into some other things.

Speaker 2:

What made you exit that role as a chiropractor?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know a few things. One like I, truly, when I became a chiropractor, I knew in my heart that that was the thing that I wanted to do and then, 10 years later, I started, probably about seven years into practice. I had a really successful practice and I could dial it up, I could dial it down. I became a little bit bored, if I'm being completely honest, and at the same time, I felt like I could make a bigger impact.

Speaker 3:

Because in a practice as a practitioner, whether you're a medical doctor, because in a practice as a practitioner, whether you're a medical doctor, dentist, chiropractor, acupuncture you and in a lot of different roles, even as a teacher, right, you are limited. Your impact is limited to who's in front of you. Like I could have this. There's only so many people I could serve as a chiropractor, even with other chiropractors working in my clinic. But my impact was limited and I was just itching for more impact and to reach more people in a bigger way.

Speaker 3:

And so it took me three years to come to that realization and then decided, and at the time I had people coming to me already asking how do you do business? And I'd built a part-time million dollar business at the time and then I multiplied into weight loss businesses. I had three locations of a weight loss business and as I did that, people were coming to me older men typically even coming to me and being like how are you doing? You're a mom and you're doing this part-time and you have all these businesses. So it was a natural progression into business consulting, which was the next role that I took.

Speaker 2:

It seems like you kind of dabbled in that before you fully left.

Speaker 3:

I definitely dabbled in that. So those last three years I definitely dabbled, but it was a natural progression. Like these people were falling onto my lap, I was like all right, well, I'll take you on as one-on-one, which then later turned into some other projects.

Speaker 2:

So then you started a business consulta and was that the first business, or was the weight loss business?

Speaker 3:

No. So chiropractic business was the first business. Well, if we want to get real on which one was the first business, this is when I was 16. I just moved here, barely spoke English and I desperately needed to make money. I worked at a fast food place for like a short minute, very quickly realized I could not be working for other people and I could not be working in those environment was probably the best thing that I did. But you know that's what you do at 16 and you're trying to fit in and you're trying to buy the whatever at the time was like gap limited. You know I'm aging myself, but just needed some money to to fit in really. And so I decided that wasn't it.

Speaker 3:

I came out of that job and, um, I was really good at math. I was in Iran, I was, like you know, top in the country or whatever. So I started to teach math to the little kids in the neighborhood. And then so if you think about it, that was my first business because it did have its own evolution I realized I can only do so much one on one with these kids, like I was making whatever X dollar amount per hour. So I started to recruit the high school kids that were good at math and be like, hey, can you teach this kid math and I'll just give you a percentage? So I would get a kind of. I started this underground tutoring company, which then later actually continued to do, and while I was at Berkeley I continued to tutor and had tutors under me, as well as when I moved into chiropractic school also. So that was my first business.

Speaker 3:

And then but yes, you're right my first real business was me as a practitioner and in my chiropractic business. I remember that business was really successful. I had built it in the way that other people had told me how to build it. I had mentors and coaches at the time not to polarize this, but men coaches with very masculine, very driven, very great techniques of sales and processes in place. And I did that and I did really great at that.

Speaker 3:

But I remember thinking I have zero freedom in this business. I could not leave long enough to have a real vacation with my family. I could not be present with my newborn because I was thinking about business. I'd created this hamster wheel where if I got off of it it was going to crash. So then I had a moment where I completely burnt out and realized a lot of things in my career, my personal life, my marriage wasn't working. My business looked successful but it really wasn't working for me and the life that I wanted and the impact that I wanted.

Speaker 3:

That was early on in practice. That was about three years, a few years into practice, don't remember exactly and in that moment I made a decision to do things differently. So that was when the idea of a part-time million dollar business was born. How can I collapse time? How can I create a business that generates more than what I'm generating? At the time I think I was at 750. How can I create that business? Work less, have the same or more profitability, but, more importantly, the freedom, the freedom to contribute, the freedom to be with my family, the freedom to travel. And that's when I switched everything around. So my business became the first part, $10 million business in my profession and then from there, a weight loss business, three locations. That went on for another seven years and then I exited.

Speaker 2:

Have you always had this like figure it out, find a way? Mindset.

Speaker 3:

You know, amanda, it sounds that way and but I think it's mixed in with the struggle like being at the bottom of the rabbit hole. I remember this moment when I had a newborn, my first kid, and I was married and I had the successful practice, remember, I put him down for a nap and then I took a phone call with my business and we all went over some numbers. It was just like a very typical day I would do. I had somebody working in there with me and then I walked myself into the closet and I shut the closet door. I shut the light and I held onto my knees and I started sobbing because I had realized everything that I had built, including my marriage, was just based, just wasn't serving me. It was so tiring.

Speaker 3:

I was over giving to everything in my life and, of course, as a new mom anyone listening who has kids or watching this, who has kids. There is also postpartum hormones and I was in the right recipe for complete disaster and I remember thinking this does not have to be the end and I could see for myself if I walk out of this closet and continue doing the things that I had been doing. My future was very predictable and it wasn't going to look good at all. It would have been a wasted life. So I walked out of that closet, making a decision to commit to a vision that I had for my life, which was maybe part of.

Speaker 3:

It was like the part-time million dollar business, tapping into other businesses, doing other things and possibly exiting my marriage. Now I've done all of those things in the past decade or so, but I don't want to give the impression that happened overnight, like I walked out of the impression that happened overnight, like I walked out of the closet and I was like, oh okay, I'll just figure it out and go, you know it's going to be fine. No, I've, it's the. I think people make the most amount of change when they are at the bottom of the rabbit hole and that's that's what's driven me to to different places.

Speaker 2:

I love how you mentioned at the bottom of the rabbit hole. I think that's so true and a lot of us don't necessarily realize that. But I love how you mentioned like you wanted to have the latest stuff. You were going to work at the fast food restaurant. You wanted this. You were willing to put in the work for whatever it was that you wanted to do. So like that's kind of what I meant by like figure it out Even at 16, you know, like you want to help the kids. You realized you couldn't do all the tutoring yourself so you started delegating that. You know all these figureoutable ways. I'm sure there was struggle with it.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, that's a good question. So, looking back, my I think my mom would always be like which is interesting because I don't have the same dynamic with my mom now but growing up my mom was definitely like you can do it, you could do it, and my dad was more felt, like I felt his support in business where I wanted to expand. He was like here's some support. With my mom it was more verbal of like you can do it, you can do anything, and I think maybe that has something to do with it of trusting myself enough that, even if I fail, I'll trust myself enough to get up again and do it again, do it differently. Maybe that's where it came from.

Speaker 2:

It makes sense, you know, having the belief in you that you can do it and having somebody say that to you Because, like people say, how kids really remember and embody those first seven years of things that are said to them, whether it's true or not, you know.

Speaker 3:

Well, and I think it's interesting because it's not that simple either, right, like my relationship with my mom's extremely complicated, so while she would tell me that I could do the things, there was a lot of control and possibly narcissism involved in the rest of my dynamic with my mom. But I do think some of the pieces that I experienced, I think it's really both ways. I think it's both the struggle and having to figure it out, because look what would have happened to me if I didn't learn English in high school. I don't think I had a choice to take the back seat. I don't think when I walked into the closet, I don't think I had a choice to walk out the same way. I think it was. I was really in a situation where I had to do things differently at the same time and those positive influences and the negative influences driving to do differently.

Speaker 2:

I get it. I'd love to transition a tad and delve down when you created the one week monk lifestyle system business owners how to create systems in place that does that for them.

Speaker 3:

And then I started to realize, amanda, I could come into your business and I could give you a part-time, I could dial things up and down I'm really good at business and I could leave after a few months and you are at your, let's say, part-time, million dollar or whatever your version of it is, and then I could leave which, by the way, I've done many times and then I could leave, and then, a few months later, these business owners would just self-sabotage themselves right back to where they started. So for me it was like wait, there's got to be a missing piece to the equation Now. Mind you, at the time I was mainly focused on the mechanics, the strategy, the sales process, the marketing, the this and that more, like literally business consulting. But I realized soon enough that there's more to the equation. My mastermind members would cut out Fridays and Tuesdays and, you know, lean out their business and make more money. But over time stuff would happen in their lives or they would attract situations and environments into their lives that would take them back to exactly where they were, where they were working harder and they were making the same amount of money. Everybody seemed to have this cap, this mental, energetic cap on income and on the amount of time. So I started a community called Elevate Club because I wanted to teach them how to figure out the mindset piece of it, the energetic piece of it. Because you think about people losing weight, right Like in the United States where I live, half the time I would say 99% of people know what to do to be healthy, right Like, okay, we'll make some move around, eat healthy, don't eat the carbs and the sugars or as much, and then eat health. Generally speaking, most people and let's take out the portion of the population who actually has a metabolic disorder, but 95% of people know have that knowledge, they have the systems, the mechanics of that, and yet 70% of Americans are overweight and obese. So it doesn't have to do with knowing how to do things, it's whether you will do it like what's the mindset around those kinds of things, whether you will do it like what's the mindset around those kinds of things. And so I started to teach that in Elevate Club and that became kind of a fertile ground for some of the other things I wanted to experiment.

Speaker 3:

Then, after I got divorced now, I had one week where I didn't have my kids. So this one week I didn't have my kids. I was like, what am I going to do? And I dabbled into different things and traveling. Then I met my fiance now and so once we got together, then one week in months we would leave our businesses and we would go somewhere, we would travel and we'd do the things.

Speaker 3:

And I realized, as I was taking the one week off, everything was getting done in those three weeks. I was generating the same, I was doing all the things, I was just as present with my kids, if not more, and I was doing all these things in those three weeks. Then I thought wait a second, what is happening here? Because it used to take me four weeks. Now it's taking me three weeks for doing the same exact thing. Then I thought how can I collapse time even more?

Speaker 3:

So this idea of doing things one week a month, like creating a business structure one week a month came to me. Similar to what people usually relate it to is like the four-hour work week of Tim Ferriss right, he gives you the techniques of how to do this. I read it years and years ago. And one week a month is less about how you do things in your life and more about what it takes, from a mindset perspective, to tap into a lifestyle that's one week a month. Because when I talk to people and I say one week a month, most people's first reaction Because when I talk to people and I say one week a month, most people's first reaction which is not the best from a branding perspective is like no, I don't want to do that Right. Like what am I going to do with all this freedom of time?

Speaker 3:

Even if I could do it, I can't sit still, which is the syndrome of the entrepreneur. They're anxious, they are busy, and even people who are not in business, they have a hard time sitting down. I mean, I meet stay-at-home moms who are like I can't sit down. Well, that's you trying to prove your worth by doing the things. You can't just sit down in silence. You don't know what to do. If your kids are having a play date and they're quiet, you have to consistently helicopter them or whatever. So then the idea of one week a month lifestyle was born, which is where my next book is, and then I have a mastermind teaching people how to live their version of one week a month also. So that's kind of how it was born. This is a semi new thing compared to other things I've done. This has just been born in the past few years.

Speaker 2:

I love that. It almost seems like you've been dabbling in that even with the high school kids having like delegating that time, having the high school kids teach the younger kids and you giving a portion to them and making more time for yourself, even back then years and years ago.

Speaker 3:

You're right. This has always been a thing Like how can I create more time? And I don't know where that comes from. I'm going to have to contemplate on that one. But I think it's also been something I've struggled with, because at chiropractic school, school was 7 am to 7 pm and then you had to study and go back to school. At Berkeley I would try so hard and everything was curved and I was this A-plus student and decently intelligent, but at Berkeley I was a C plus student because everybody was so smart, so what we would do is we would sleep in the library and so there was no time to do anything. So, coming from that, then building a business that was eating up my entire life this kind of a theme along the process, then the part-time million dollar and then the one weekend month lifestyle yeah, it's been consistent.

Speaker 2:

Is there something that helped you realize that you don't need to hustle 24-7 to be successful?

Speaker 3:

I think it was the moment in the closet, I don't know that I realized I don't need to hustle, but it was more like what the? I don't know if I can cuss on here, but like what the like? What the fuck am I doing? It was more like looking back and being like what am I going to do? I'm going to leave this planet and just work like my parents did. And the other recognition is I'd built up until the closet moment. I built the business based on the understandings of my parents' experience, like work really hard and hustle.

Speaker 3:

And then in a moment I realized I'm actually addicted to that. There's an addict, just like somebody else might be addicted to alcohol or drugs or social media, whatever, I'm addicted to hard work. If I don't do it, I have anxiety. So it was working because I'm addicted, I get into it and then I'm into it and then I get validation, people are feeling better, I'm making money, I'm providing for my family. So it was a really sick cycle. And it's not that I realized I could do it that way, but it's more that I realized wait a second, what if I tried? What if I just tried and created some to create something where it was part time in that, in that era. And what if I fail? Then at least I know I can go back to hustle. Hustle will always be there for me.

Speaker 3:

That's true, you could always go back. I could always go back, and it was the worst case scenario was not so bad either that's so true.

Speaker 2:

You know, if you can handle the worst case, why not give it a shot? Why not give it a shot now? You mentioned how and I'm curious if you can elaborate on this but you mentioned how your business success is 80 percent energetics and identity and only 20% strategy.

Speaker 3:

Yes. So when I first started this work, when I would work with people, I would give them all the strategy and they might've climbed up a bit, or they would climb up a lot and then they would go back. There was always this cap and I used to think at the time when I had this recognition oh wait, a second. There's this energetic piece, there's this mindset piece, there's this piece. Where are you driving your business from? A place of scarcity or are you driving your business from a place of a vision or abundance? Right, it makes a difference. Once I made that recognition at the time, if you go back and watch any of my old videos, I used to say it's 50-50, 50% energetics and 50% strategy. But as I've done this now for a while now, I can see that with the right approach, the right energetics, the right mindset, the right sort of thought process, the strategy is almost not relevant. And I've seen this in practice. Right, and I use this example all the time. I say imagine you have two entrepreneurs, okay, two business owners. You can imagine two moms, two wives doesn't matter in any role, right? And let's say they both have the same approach. Okay, say, let's take the business owner. They both have the same exact approach. They're in the same business, they have the same marketing, the same systems in place, the same sales processes and everything else, and they and wanting to not be a certain way. And so there's a lot of fear and doubt in the things that he's doing, even though he's saying the same things as this other guy. Then, on the other side of things, this other person is doing those exact same things, but his approach and his energy in his energetic field is filled with abundance and love and service and ease and freedom. Right, and he's doing. The doing is the same, but the being is completely different. Well, they're going to have a completely different experience of that and the end result would a thousand percent be different for both of those.

Speaker 3:

And you take this into your personal life. I mean, if I bring coffee for my husband and if I'm like carrying the coffee and making the coffee with love and my heart and gratitude for all the things that he does and for my family, for my kids, and I'm filled up with gratitude and I take him that coffee without saying a word, no facial expression, no words. And then let's say another experience where I take him the same coffee. Same exact coffee, same exact walk to you know, get him the coffee and same exact facial expressions. Nothing, no words said. But let's say in this scenario I'm full of resentment because of what he did last night or what he said last night or something like that. Right, the experience is going to look wildly different for both of us because of the energetic piece of it. The act is the same, but how I'm showing up and what I have tapped into and what's filled up in my energetic field is wildly different in each of the scenarios and makes a big difference.

Speaker 3:

So with in the personal life, it's harder to tangibly kind of be like. People say to me, like an elevate club where we teach this, they'll be like. I feel better. People are reacting to me differently. I'm more in love and I'm doing this, this and that. But in the business world you can literally tangibly see the numbers. People show up differently. They make more money. Same strategy. So now I'm convinced that it's 80-20. And moving forward, I would not be surprised if at some point in the future I go. Strategy is like 1%, 2%, 5% of the equation and majority of it is in the energetic part of things.

Speaker 2:

So how would you say? Someone can align their mindset and their energy to create maximum growth.

Speaker 3:

I think the biggest piece to the equation is having an unreasonable for their life, like for their life for their business, for their relationship, for any area of life that they want to tap into. I talk about this quite often. Is this idea of a quantum leap in life right, like you could? If I continue in this path with the same version of myself, well, my future is very predictable, just like it was when I was sitting in the closet. Now, if you move over to a whole, nother parallel line of life, I could decide I'm going to be a realtor, or I could decide I'm going to do things differently. I'm going to decide I'm going to feel things differently. My future would be wildly different, right? So that jump is the quantum jump. That requires a different energetic state, not necessarily more work, but it will all start with having a vision that I call an unreasonable vision, which basically means you have no idea how to get there. But it's so juicy that not only excites you, the idea of having it manifest in your life, but it also scares you. It also activates your nervous system. To be like that is going to be not possible, that's not safe. Your nervous system to go that's not safe. We're not going there and that's the one you've got to pick. You got to start there. You got to start with the unreasonable vision for life, and I have a four-step process where I teach people how to go from the unreasonable life vision. I'm happy to talk about it here too, if you want. But the first step is unreasonable vision and then you go through the steps and then at the end you're like wait a second, I am in this whole new life. It's the four steps of a quantum leap, but I think that's foundation. You got to know where you're headed before anything else. Would you mind a lot to share with them? Absolutely. So the first step is having an unreasonable life, and I share with people.

Speaker 3:

Listen, there are three kinds of visions you could have. The first kind of vision is the vision or goal that people have heard of it smart goals, right, they got to be specific and measurable and realistic, and I call them boring because they do not require you to step outside of who you are right now. The second kind of goal and they're usually filled with scarcity. The second kind of goal is an inspired goal or an inspired vision where you're like I'm so excited to get to this next level in my life. I'm so excited to experience my husband, my wife, my kids in this way. I'm so excited for my body to look a certain way. So that's an inspired goal. So that usually the criteria is you know how to do it. You don't know how to do it, but you can figure out how to do it. You could call up Amanda who's done it and be like, hey, how do I start a podcast and Amanda will share, and then you're like, okay, I can do it. So that will be an inspired vision.

Speaker 3:

The third kind of vision that you could have and this is really where Quantum Leap takes place is the unreasonable vision for life. And that is two criterias. One is I have no fucking idea how to do this, don't know anyone who's done it, I can't find it on YouTube, like I don't, I don't know, I don't even know. It's too big, it's too big. And the second criteria is it has to, like I mentioned, it has to activate your nervous system, to go into anxiety, because that's how you know. It is going to require you to departure your existing identity and become a new version of yourself. It's going to require an evolution of you from point A to point B in order to get to live that life.

Speaker 3:

I mean, this is where I was, where I was in the closet and I had this wasn't the first time I had the vision, but the vision came to me of, you know, living bi-continentally, being in a loving, connected marriage world, schooling my kids, connected marriage world, schooling my kids whenever I choose to. I mean, like, all of these ideas and the level of contribution I wanted to have was just outside of this world, based on where I was sitting in the closet. So it seemed so unreasonable for me when I said part-time, million dollar, so unreasonable. I'm sitting here in the closet, I'm crying, my infant is taking a nap and I have a marriage that's not working. How am I even going to get that Seems so unreasonable and scary, but that's where it began. So that's the first step in the process and I'm going to pause before I blabber on to the rest of it. See if you want to add anything, but I'm happy to go over the rest of the see if you want to add anything, but I'll.

Speaker 2:

I'm happy to go over the rest of the steps and no, that makes a lot of sense. I love the unreasonable life, unreasonable vision, you know, and I love how you mentioned boring. As for the goals, you know they might be achievable but they're basic. You know, like it's not even if it's not boring, they're like basic self-example. You know Like even the inspired ones feel like will change your life more than your basic goals. You know, even like inspired to start a podcast, inspired to start your health journey. You're going to, I would think, get something more out of it. Yeah, and make sense about the nervous system.

Speaker 3:

Because, if you think about it, smart goals, they're within your nervous system, they are your smart goals are. You're already regulated to where your smart goals would be Inspired goals. They require a bit more, but you figure it out, you guys, not that far off from the safety of your nervous system. Unreasonable goals? No, girlfriend, you're going to have to put some work in into yourself to become a different version of you, for which that beautiful, juicy dream life that you think and you deserve to have is available to your nervous system. It's going to require work to get there.

Speaker 2:

No, it makes a lot of sense. And then what are the next?

Speaker 3:

steps. The second step is identity expanding your identity, right. So most of us will wake up and we'll be like you know, like even some things that you asked me about my identity, like who am I? Right? If you really think about it, when you're born, you are unlimited potential you have. You really have like very little identity.

Speaker 3:

Identity may be passed on by genes or your soul's purpose, you know. But aside from that, it's not like you're confident, you're not confident. You are. You think you're good at something or you don't. And when you're born, you don't have any. You're not born with any really factual pieces of your identity.

Speaker 3:

Everything that we think that we are in terms of our identity is actually picked up along the way. If I think I'm a good mom, it's probably because someone told me or I picked up along the way that this is what a good mom is and so I think I'm a good mom, right? If I think I'm not confident, it's probably from something that happened when I was in third grade in the playground, if I got bullied or something like that. So, even sharing the beginning of the story of like I think I'm a healer because this is what happened in my life, okay, well, who were you before any of that? When you were the newborn and your parents were holding you were just unlimited potential.

Speaker 3:

So I think of identity as two things. One is that your identity is fluid. Okay, and I don't mean that in like a political sense, but what I mean is, one day you can wake up and be confident. Another day you can wake up and not be confident. I know I've experienced that. So which one are we? Are we confident? Are we not confident? If you can get intentional about the way that your identity shows up in the world, then with that intentionality you're fueling your future. Right, I can make a decision in this next moment to show up more confident. I can make that decision, and I want to address those who are listening and saying, oh, that's faking until you make it. I'm going to come back to that in a second. So if you're thinking, oh, that sounds like you're going to fake it till you make it, I'm going to address that.

Speaker 3:

But the other piece to the equation is your identity will always drive your behavior, which means if you think you're a good mom, you're going to do things that good moms will do, and this is my favorite example when I have this conversation is if you think you're a fit person, like, if you are the kind of person who, let's say, you identify yourself as, like, a gym rat, you will never probably write in your journal because I did that for many years, right, I have friends who identify as quote unquote the gym rat. They just find time and they just go to the gym. And here I am every January I'm going to go to the gym, you know, lift weights or whatever. It's just not part of my identity and I can choose. I can choose. If I'm really committed to the vision, say, of a six pack or a certain thing, then I can choose that identity. Right, it takes work to get there, but that's the process is expanding your identity, understanding that your identity is driving your behavior. If you're procrastinating, if you're not doing the things, if you are in a certain kind of relationship, that's because that's how you identify Maybe not as worthy, maybe not as worthy of your health, worthy of love, worthy of money, all of those things. So your environment that you have created, the life that you've built for yourself, the relationships that you have, they're all a reflection of your identity. Okay, well, if you want something different, you're going to have to expand your identity to the version of itself that has access to something different. So if I've done step one properly, which is having an unreasonable vision, then in step two I'm going to define the identity pieces, the traits, the behavior, the thought process, the habits of the next version of myself that has access and is in alignment with the next level of life, with the unreasonable vision that I've set for myself.

Speaker 3:

Now let's talk about those who are like well, that sounds like you're just going to wake up and you're going to fake confident yourself into things, right? So my answer to that is whatever limitations you have right now that are holding you back from that unreasonable dream life which, by the way, you deserve Whatever limitations you have that are holding you back, those are fake. That's the real fake. That's the fake stuff that you got to let go of. So you not being enough, not being deserving, not being good enough at something, being the procrastinator, being bad at this, whatever those are. What's fake? You tapping into the future identity, future version of yourself, especially if your unreasonable vision is authentic. You picked it out. You're like this is my heart's desire. Then that's what's real, that's the most real thing that you could do is expressing more of your potential. That is going to get you to that next level of whatever you want to experience in life.

Speaker 3:

So that's the second step. Expanded identity. Get into the third. So the third step in the process is embodiment. So it's a little bit of an expansion of.

Speaker 3:

The second step is basically, how can I show up today and embody the next version of myself? How can I show up today and tune into abundance, into confidence, into love, into joy, into gratitude, even though maybe my reality right now is stress, anxiety and scarcity, you know, or overwhelm, or any of those negative emotions, and scarcity, you know, or overwhelm, or any of those negative emotions? How can I show up now that I've defined who I need to be and how I need to show up in step two, how can I tune into that? And that is. That's really simple. It's just the practice of a muscle, because you know what we're addicted to and what we have. More practice in St stressed out, not enough, overwhelmed anxiety, you know all the things, which is why we end up overworked and underpaid and underappreciated and overgiving. So when you're in that situation, you have to recognize that that's the old addiction. You're addicted to those emotions.

Speaker 3:

Fast forward. If I have to unhook from those emotions and hook onto and learn how to be addicted to the joyful emotions, that's just the practice of embodiment. You know whether it's, and there are different ways to do it Meditation, visualization. I teach all of these things inside of the Elevate Club coaching container. Then we have the fourth step in the process. The fourth step in the process is unreasonable action.

Speaker 3:

So this is where there's three kinds of actions. If you've been listening and taking notes, these three kinds of actions, they actually go hand in hand with three kinds of visions that we discussed in step one. So the first kind of action is going to be scarcity-based actions Taking action because you're afraid. Working harder because you're afraid you're going to lose your job. You're working harder because you're afraid you didn't have a good month in your business. You're overgiving in your relationship because you're afraid you're going to lose their love. So that's, those are fear-based. They give you a different experience of life, even though the doing is the same, might be the same.

Speaker 3:

The second kinds of actions are going to be inspired actions.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I'm excited to do this thing and obviously, as you mentioned so gracefully, they're so much better than scarcity actions and scarcity visions, but they do not require you to quantum leap the third kind of action, and this is why you have to do the steps in order, and this is why I have a 90-minute training on this, because it's not as simple as I maybe make it sound.

Speaker 3:

But by the time you get to the fourth step, you already have an unreasonable vision. You already defined the identity, you already embodied it, you already practiced it at least a little bit. Now it's time to take unreasonable actions. Those unreasonable actions are going to look like the kinds of actions that the identity of you, that the version of you sitting in the closet, your version of the closet, you know the identity of you right now, sitting here, listening or watching this podcast definitely would not take. But you know who would take those actions the version of you that's already living your unreasonable life. And so those are the kinds of actions that are going to quantum leap you to that next level.

Speaker 2:

I love how you phrase it as unreasonable. I love that. You know it's like something you wouldn't think to do. I had a mentor years ago and at first I didn't fully understand the phrase but more and more I've been understanding what it meant. But he made the comment to me about you've got to put yourself in the arena even if you don't know what you're going to say. Just put yourself in the arena, show up there. You don't have to have all the answers. You'll figure it out, as you know. And that unreasonable action it doesn't have to make sense. It can scare the crap out of you, do it?

Speaker 3:

Yes, and I want to say that that unreasonable action is only unreasonable for the version of you here that's afraid to step into the arena, but it's actually very reasonable for the next version of you that's already living the life of her dreams, right? That version of you would step into the arena with confidence. It would not even second guess herself, right? So you have to train yourself to continuously take the kinds of actions that the next version of you would be taking.

Speaker 2:

That's so true. I love how you were to explain this, like simplified kind of. I get that. I'm sure it's much more complicated, but it makes you really explained it well that I could grasp, makes you really explained it well that I could grasp. Thank you, I appreciate that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, of course this is what my life's work has been about, even before I recognized that there are these four steps. And these four steps came about when I was in the moments of struggle, not in this structure. I didn't understand what the steps were. I recognized them way later. But looking back, amanda, every time I have quantum leaped and I've gotten to the next level from where I was. Every single time I've done the same four steps, whether I knew it or I didn't know. It just kind of stepped into it unreasonably.

Speaker 2:

Wow, what would you say are some of the biggest limiting beliefs that you've noticed in entrepreneurs that hold them back from really stepping to that next level?

Speaker 3:

I'm not enough. I think that's the underlying limiting like the foundational one, but it shows up as I have to work hard to make money. It shows up as I have to hustle to show my worth. I think those are really big ones. Big ones I'm not loved, which basically makes us show up in an inauthentic way in our businesses. Or I'm seeking love, seeking validation which comes from I'm not loved. I think those are big, foundational ones. I'm not enough and I'm not loved. We're all living life trying to prove ourselves and prove that we are enough, and I think that's enough. We can stop right there.

Speaker 2:

How can they overcome this?

Speaker 3:

I think, okay, so there's two ways to approach this, right? So I could be like oh look, amanda, this is what happened when I was a kid and my mom did this and my dad did this, and I can identify fully with that story. And then I could go to therapy and this is nothing against therapy. I highly suggest people get therapy. I've gotten therapy when I was going through divorce as well, and so. But we can look into and be like what did your mom say? And then what happened when you were a child and what do you remember?

Speaker 3:

And just kind of giving a ton of energy to what created the limiting belief systems, right, what created the scarcity, or whatever the case might be. Or this is my favorite way of doing it is to look and go what's my unreasonable vision for my life Like? And this, from a nervous system perspective, actually makes more sense because if I can give the energy to this and if I can say yes to my vision and my new identity and my new embodiment every single day, I can find an opportunity, a moment to show up as the next version of myself. If I can do that more than I do this, going back to the old and giving energy to the not enoughness.

Speaker 3:

Over time your nervous system will prune, but I think pruning is when you cut the things that are not working right. You cut the old leaves and now there's opportunity from that elimination process because you cut it out there's opportunity for actually more growth. So I think, whether entrepreneurship or in motherhood or any role, fatherhood, any role that you have, giving more of your energy to where you are headed and less and less of your energy to who you have been and your limitations and why they're there, is going to make that quantum leap happen to overcome those limitations. I don't think it's a one-stop situation like one time and then you're done. I think this is a lifetime of work.

Speaker 2:

It's not a one and done. I'm curious if you can share with us some of the daily habits that you personally engage with that help you live the successful life that you live in.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I have two non-negotiables, maybe three non-negotiables. One of them is just so routine that I don't even consider a non-negotiable because it just happens. But the two non-negotiables one is when I teach my students how to do the step one, which is creating and building an unreasonable vision. First of all, most people fail right there. They don't, I don't know what I want, and they just identify with that. I don't know. I'm the person that doesn't know what I want, so I can stay small. So it took a while for me to put my unreasonable vision together. So I sat there, worked on it years and years and it continues to evolve in the process as well. But that's something that I have typed up in my phone, also in the Google Doc, also in different paper version, my journal version. So one of my non-negotiables and habits is to read and feel through that. So I read the next version of myself, of my life story, of what you know, as if the wish is already fulfilled and I'm already living that life. So I read through that. That's one non-negotiable. Then I have a second non-negotiable some version of a meditation. So it might be a short gratitude thing, it might be an hour and 15 minute meditation. It doesn't matter. Whatever gratitude thing, it might be an hour and a 15 minute meditation, it doesn't matter. Whatever I'm kind of in the mood for or have time for. So those are my two non-negotiables.

Speaker 3:

Another really good habit that I have built over the years is, in the mornings, asking myself two questions what do you want to experience today? So, when I first wake up and my fiance and I have kind of this conversation, what do we want to experience? This is on daily basis, but also if you're stepping into some kind of an arena or if you have an event coming up, or if I'm coming on this podcast, what do I want to experience with Amanda, right? So first question what do I want to experience today on this trip, on this vacation, on the stage, you know, whatever? And the second question is what needs to die? What needs to die? So what parts of me do I need to let go of? What do I need to eliminate today? What parts of my characteristics need to not show up? Maybe the part of me that might be insecure or procrastinates or not enough. And it's just.

Speaker 3:

Somebody asked me I was at my retreat and someone was like, well, how can you do that? Because you can't just eliminate unworthiness in a question or in a day. If you're choosing and it's not so much about being like today I'm going to not be unworthy and I'm going to get rid of that one. It's more just the intentionality of being like that is got to go. And then you might say that every single day to yourself I'm going to let go of being a procrastinator. Every single day, you're just bringing awareness to the fact that that needs to die in order for what I want to experience to unfold, because otherwise you're just doing the same thing over and over and over again. We all know what that's called.

Speaker 2:

I love those two questions that you ask yourself every day and that's so fascinating to me about the what do you want. You know I am a breathwork facilitator and when I got certified in breathwork we actually had to do this exercise with a partner. And we went back and forth and we asked each other, what do you want? And we couldn't say I don't know, whatever the answer was like, whatever came to mind. But we did this probably 10 minutes and like it got. At the beginning it wasn't very deep, it might be very surface level, but you got to the core of what it is you wanted. You know, even started doing that exercise with myself, like in the mirror, and asking myself what do we want? And just repeating that phrase over and over and like at first your mind might be like I don't know, but as you ask it and you ask it and you ask it, it's gonna have an answer and almost forcing yourself to not say you don't know. Whatever it is, there's something in there that you want, you know. I love that.

Speaker 3:

And I think you can. You don't have to take it so seriously either. Like when you're first starting this practice, you could be like I want a good I don't know, I want a good day. The next day you wake up, you're like I want a good day. The third day you wake up and you're like I really want a good day today. So you could change it. You can say I want coffee today, I want to experience a good cup of coffee. Start somewhere. And I think this practice like I mean I took when I was going through a divorce process there was a lot that unfolded because I recognized I had been doing things and even in my business I've been doing things that I was told with by other people.

Speaker 3:

I would sit down at dinner with my ex-husband and I wouldn't sit down and look at the menu and be like what would I want today? I'd lost that inner voice, if you would, because I'd been over giving and over processing in my marriage. I was in a position where I had to. And I think, just coming back to yourself, there's something about activating that inner voice. That's like, hmm, I wonder what I do want to experience today. It's really powerful.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if you've heard of a man named Mike Dooley Written a book. Yeah, I've done a few different workshops with him and I got into visualization with him and it's now a non-negotiable. I do it every day four minutes, 44 seconds in the morning and something that he mentioned like so many people don't know what to visualize, don't know what they want, and it's really stuck with me because he was like, even if you just visualize yourself super joyful, you don't have to know where you are, you're so happy in this experience and visualize that it doesn't have to be in a certain place, it doesn't have to be doing a certain thing, just you're super joyful. Saying that over and over again and that'll help you figure out over time what it is you want.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I think by doing a visualization like that from a nervous system perspective, now your nervous system has experienced joy that maybe your body and your brain and your nervous system is afraid to feel right, because the other shoe will drop or whatever. So it's allowing your nervous system to feel the joy, which basically means you're continuing to prune right, if I can get into joy, no matter what, no matter what. There's no visualization of like I'm in the park or I'm with my partner or I'm with my no, no, no, just joy by itself. You're giving that, you're gifting that to your nervous system and eventually, what's not joy will prune and will drop.

Speaker 2:

I love that. Now, if anybody listening to us is struggling, they're feeling stuck either in their business, their life in general. What's one powerful action step they can take to start their transformation?

Speaker 3:

sitting down with yourself and jotting down. I know I'm going to sound like on repeat with this, but I've done this work for not just personal, but also with thousands of people, and I can certainly say the most important thing someone can do, especially if they're struggling, is to have a vision. When I say vision is sitting with yourself and figuring out three bullet points, does not need to be this 21 page anything you do not need to journal if you don't want to Like, just start with three things you want to experience in your life. Yeah, and just start there, and then you can. Every day, you look at it and you go oh, I put down love as one of the bullet points. Okay, well, let's expand on that.

Speaker 3:

What kind of love do I want to experience? How would I like to experience love? What would that feel like? What would that look like? What am I hearing in this situation? Involve your senses. But listen, you don't have to do any of that. Just start with those three bullet points of the things you want to experience, and for some other people it might look like no, no, no, I have a vision. Well, if you have that, then commit to it. Say yes to the vision every single time, instead of how am I going to get there? Or feeding into the fear and the doubt that might hold you back.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much. Have you heard of a man named Jay Shetty? Thank you so much.

Speaker 3:

Have you heard of a man named Jay Shetty Just on Instagram? I don't really know of his work or anything.

Speaker 2:

So he's got a podcast called On Copus. He's written a book and in his podcast he ends it with two segments and I really like these segments, so I've stolen them and I add my podcast with these two segments. This segment is the many sides to us. There's five questions and they need to be answered in one word each that's gonna be hard, but okay, let's do it what is one word.

Speaker 3:

Someone who was meeting you for the first time would choose to describe you as I think what I've heard people say is intense, Like I think they feel my intensity. That's the word.

Speaker 2:

What is one word that someone who knows you extremely well would use to describe you as Soft? What is one word you'd use to describe yourself Intentional? What is one word that, if someone didn't like you or agree with your mindset, would you use to describe you as?

Speaker 2:

Intense, intense these are good. What is one word that you're trying to embody right now? Fun second segment is the final five, and these can be answered in a sentence. What is the best five? And these can be answered in a sentence what is the best advice you've heard or received? Trust yourself. Why is that the best?

Speaker 3:

because in it is embedded trusting that things are going to be okay, and I would rather subscribe to that than the anxiety and the fear.

Speaker 2:

What in the worst advice you've heard or received?

Speaker 3:

Any version of you have to do it this particular way. There's no other way. There's always a third door.

Speaker 2:

I like that. There's always a third door. What is something that you used to value that you no longer value?

Speaker 3:

Something I used to value that I no longer value. I okay, I used to. I think it's a redefining of a value, but I used to think that define like I used to define being healthy as if I went to the gym all the time and if I ate super healthy all the time and if I took my vitamins and drank my water and all those things and I. It's not that I don't value health, but my definition of health has shifted into the doing the things that I love doing.

Speaker 2:

Now it's like yoga and walking and being happy and doing my meditations if you could describe what you would want your legacy to be, as if someone was reading it, what would you want it to say?

Speaker 3:

I would want them to say that I've made a dent in the universe and, specifically, I have woken up somebody's. It could just be one person, but ideally a lot of people's unlimited potential.

Speaker 2:

If you could create one law in the world that everyone had to follow, what would it be? And I want to know why.

Speaker 3:

A law that everyone would have to follow. I think treating others the way that you would want to be treated would make the world a better place. I'm sure that's somebody else's law, but that sounds like a good one. I'll borrow.

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 3:

I yeah, why? I mean think about it. If we were to treat everyone the way that we want to be treated, fused with love and gratitude, less of the other stuff that's not serving humanity, I think we'd have a completely different world.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for speaking with me. I really appreciate it. Thank you, Amanda. My pleasure. I hope it was valuable. It was when can listeners connect with you?

Speaker 3:

valuable it was when can listeners connect with you? They can look me up anywhere online and my website, but I love a personal connection most, so if this conversation resonated with anybody, message me on Instagram and if you want the 90 minute training, I'm happy to send it over. That's probably the best personal connection right now, awesome.

Speaker 2:

I will link that in the show notes and no pressure, but I do like to always give it back to the guest. Any final words of wisdom you want to share with the listeners?

Speaker 3:

Just going back to trusting yourself. I'm a student of trust. I have a tattoo on my wrist that says trust, so I think going back to that has always been really powerful and it's paid me tenfold.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much again. Thank you, amanda, and thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Amanda's Mindset. Hey guys, amanda's here. Thank you so much for tuning in to my episode with Nona. I hope that was as transformative for you as it was for me. Now here's a few quick takeaways from that powerful conversation that I wanted to highlight that really stuck with me.

Speaker 2:

First, the idea of living an unreasonable life. That hit me. Nona talked about setting a vision for your life that's so bold and so big that it scares you. Not because it's impossible, because it forces you to evolve into the version of yourself who can actually live that life. I love that reminder to stop playing small or settling for your quote, unquote realistic goals. Go for the goals that make your nervous system go. Whoa, that hit me like a cord. It's key. That's the biggest way to grow and elevate.

Speaker 2:

Second, identity drives behavior. If you think you're the type of person who procrastinates or always struggles, guess what? You will act that out. But you can choose to shift. Who do you want to be? I'm going to ask you again who do you want and how would that version of you show up today? That was a huge aha for me, shifting. How would the version you want to be show up, act like them? Pretend you are already them, because identity drives behavior.

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And lastly, trust yourself. Nona said that more than once and it's simple, but it's powerful, even in those closet floor breaking down moments. Trust that you will figure it out. That's how real transformation starts, not with knowing the entire path and knowing the whole plan, with believing that you will keep walking it. As I always say, everything is figureoutable. It's not from me, it's a book by Marie Forleo. Look it up, but I truly believe that we will figure it out. You will figure it up, but I truly believe that we will figure it out. You will figure it out. Trust yourself and trust that, no matter what occurs, you'll figure it out.

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Thank you, guys, so much for tuning in to another episode of Mander's Mindset. If this episode sparked something inside of you, I invite you to go back and re-listen to the episode and maybe even journal about it. Journal about your unreasonable vision. What does it look like? As always, thank you so much for tuning in to Mander's Mindset. Keep breathing, keep shifting and remember everything is figurative. Thanks guys, until next time. In case no one told you today, I'm proud of you. I'm booting for you and you got this as always. If you enjoyed the show, I would really appreciate it if you would leave me a five-star rating, leave a review and share it with anyone you think would benefit from this. And don't forget you are only one mindset. Shift away from shifting your life. Thanks, guys, until next time.

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