Manders Mindset
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Manders Mindset
110: Chris G Returns: A Deeper Dive into Balance, Truth, & Transformation
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In this highly anticipated episode of Manders Mindset, Amanda welcomes back Chris G, the podcast's very first guest, and one of the most beloved voices from the show’s history. Chris opens up like never before, sharing raw and transformative insights into his journey. From growing up with complex family dynamics to navigating the heartbreak of loss, Chris reveals how aligning with his truth has helped him transform his perspective and find balance in life.
In this episode, you’ll uncover profound lessons on self-discovery, the spiritual awakening that changed Chris’s path, and how embracing vulnerability leads to growth. Whether you’re navigating life’s challenges or simply looking for inspiration to stay aligned with your inner truth, this episode offers something for everyone.
Takeaways from the Episode:
- Understanding the value of vulnerability and how it deepens connections with ourselves and others.
- The importance of recognizing and acting on life’s pivotal moments before they pass.
- How spiritual practices and self-reflection can open doors to personal alignment.
- Insights into navigating sleep paralysis and finding peace in the midst of it.
- A reminder that every decision you make can help you balance insecurities with truth and authenticity.
Key Points:
- [1:30] – Chris reflects on his childhood, family dynamics, and the life lessons learned from his parents.
- [8:10] – A touching recount of his mother’s passing and the importance of cherishing human connection.
- [13:45] – Chris shares his experiences with sleep paralysis and its role in his spiritual growth.
- [19:20] – From physics to real estate: Chris explains his career shifts and the lessons learned along the way.
- [28:10] – The “Many Sides to Us” segment: Chris reflects on himself and his journey in one-word answers.
- [35:00] – Chris shares his greatest advice, what he values most, and the legacy he hopes to leave behind.
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Welcome to the Manders Mindset Podcast. Here you'll find both monologue and interviews of entrepreneurs, coaches, healers and a variety of other people where your host, amanda Russo, will discuss her own mindset and perspective and her guest's mindset and perspective on the world around us. Manders and her guests will help explain to you how shifting your mindset will shift your life, will help explain to you how shifting your mindset will shift your life.
Speaker 2:I am so excited and thrilled to be here. Welcome to Mander's Mindset, where we explore the power of shifting your mindset to shift your life. Life has really come full circle for me and I am so excited for you guys to hear today's amazing guest. Today's guest is a fan favorite and that's not just coming from me, that is even coming from the staffs. First guest episode we ever had Still the most popular episode of Mando's Mindset. We are back with our fave Chris G. Chris, thank you so much for coming back on the show. I am so excited to have you.
Speaker 3:And you know that I am extremely happy to be back here. I want to know what you want to ask, and what you ask is always extremely authentic and what you ask is very important and you're going to answer things, or maybe we can help people answer things that they have questions that they need answers for. If not, then we'll be available for them afterwards. In my case, that's okay, you can always ask me, I will always be there for you. So, yeah, from what I understand the premise of the questions, what we're going to cover a bit is that we're going to cover some deep stuff and the bottom line is that always know who you can talk to. How do the balance all that stuff? And, yeah, we'll take it from there.
Speaker 2:My dear again, I said that the first podcast knowing you did say that the first episode knowing who you can talk to. I like how you said you know just certain people you can rely on, versus not even like us here today. I've known that you are moving a lot of stuff rely on, versus not Even like us here today. I have known that you are moving a lot of stuff there. I am hearing a lot of background noise.
Speaker 3:Just a piece of paper. I took notes. You know why? Because vision is important.
Speaker 2:I take notes too, but I know how to be quiet with my notes, Chris.
Speaker 3:It's alright, I won't scoot around anymore, it's fine.
Speaker 2:So I want to know who you would say Chris is at the core.
Speaker 3:The core of myself is the ability for myself to have the ability, is the ability for myself to have the ability again, it doesn't sound counterintuitive to understand myself, to be able to question myself and therefore, if I am able to question myself and go through life actively and then be able to properly engage those same questions with the people that are around me, that tells me the truth that surrounds me, because I originated the truth For sure, For sure, and I've done that many times and I mean that's the way it is. And I've done that many times and I mean that's the way it is as far as I know, If you want to teach, me different go ahead.
Speaker 2:Can you take us down memory lane?
Speaker 3:Tell us about your family, dynamic childhood upbringing however deep you want to take that, I'll take it as deep as you want to go. So my mom had me when she was 17. My mom, she died of ALS about gosh, three years ago. My biological father his name is Earl never knew him. It's funny because I remember, like wearing diapers, all that stuff, but for some reason I don't remember his presence at all. So he committed suicide about seven years ago.
Speaker 3:I realized that on Father's Day because I had reached out to him when, well, it was Father's Day and I'm like, oh gosh, you know, it's time, I'm mature enough and I can handle this. And you know, it's kind of reach out to the biological male side of the family and it's funny. I had a phone call from my Uncle Mike. Now I call my Uncle Mike. He called me back about an hour later and he told me well, I could tell by the tone of his voice that things are different. Something's not okay, something's not okay. I'm like, well, I was reaching out to my dad and I reached out to you because I couldn't find him. And he's like I knew there was something wrong and he's like, oh, and he's like you don't know. Well, no, I presume nothing, I presume truth, just give me the truth. And I could tell. And I was like, well, no, it's interesting because three days prior or two days prior, I was planning on reaching out and just being like, hey, I have your son, you know all that stuff. I called him up two days later on. Well, the night before Father's Day, and Uncle Mike called me up. He's like, yeah, and you always know when something's wrong, I do. I'm like what's up? I mean like I've never even talked to you before either. But what's up? I mean like I've never even talked to you before either. But what's up, I thought you knew. Well, your dad nailed himself two days ago. It's like the same time I was trying to reach out. Same time I was trying to reach out Just to know who this man was. He died a lonely man on Deer Island in Maine. He died a lonely guy, and it's not his fault at all. You just never have the support or any sort of infrastructure to regain his just vibration, who he was or who he is, or could you know all that stuff. It's just he felt his heart broken and that's it, just nailed it. That's one.
Speaker 3:The other one is, like I mentioned, my mom died of ALS about three years ago. I get so caught up in work that I do disregard what people. I disregard things. I just have to because it's hard to work, work. I'm a farm boy and I remember the last time I saw my mom, all she said because she had ALS. She could barely talk. I just remember those last words I love you. In a whisper, just a whisper, and every single time I always followed up with a kiss, a hug, and a kiss, a prayer. That last time I did not and I went down to the South Shore to do my work.
Speaker 3:And then my dad, randy not my biologic father, but he's the man that adopted me and raised me as his son, who is my dad, who I'm very close to these days he called me up and just he said you know, this is your last, these are the last moments Like here it is. And he knew you know this is your last. These are the last moments Like here it is. And he knew. And I appreciate and I adopt and I appreciate people who know things spiritually, especially when it comes to fruition, even when it comes to death, but he it's like it's time I can't leave this project, I can't do all that stuff and my dad, being the one that taught me the work ethic, says he understands. And then, 20 minutes later, I called him out like you know what? I'll pack everything down, I'm ready to go, packed everything down, ready to go, packed everything down, ready to go. And he just calls me up. He's like she's moved forward, it's done now. It's all right, she's done now, you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 3:And I kept working. I mean, I understood it. I talked to some of my people. I kept working. I mean, I understood it. I talked to some of my people, I kept going. But it taught me that the human souls are so valuable it almost doesn't even matter what it takes, as long as they believe in themselves, to be able to respond to certain decisions. And we have to learn the hard way. Sometimes I've had to. It is what it is.
Speaker 3:Sometimes you don't know what's right until you look back and understand what's wrong. As long as you're truthful to yourself, you're fine. And in this case, sure, there's regrets. Sure, but was I truthful to myself? Yes, why? Because that was what I was taught and I thought that was right and that's okay, gosh, I mean, the only other regrets I have is my last birch Going to Poshmama, my poor cocktail head separation anxiety, you know, and he hated when I left home. But I had to go up there every weekend and at first it was fine. But there's a certain thing called soul needs, and how that originates is with divinity, and that's something I will never, ever question. You know why? Because truth has no explanation, but you know truth when you hear it. Same thing with humans or people, same thing with animals, I mean that's why I bond with horses, the animals I've ever had in my life. It's really beautiful, it really is. But I know where things go and that's great.
Speaker 2:Now can you tell us a little bit more about your childhood? Can we go a little further back? Any siblings?
Speaker 3:I remember being born in Florida. My grandparents were really pissed off. They sent my mom down to Florida, hollywood Florida. That's where I was born, down to Florida, hollywood Florida. You know, that's where I was born before I was born, and she was 17 at the time, which was kind of underage, all that stuff. And I'm like, no, they got pissed and they sent her down there and I'm like, well, no, you have to deal with your grandparents, we don't want to deal with it because they're like, what are you doing All that stuff? So she did, and that's where I was born. I mean, that's where my first memories are. And I remember wearing diapers. I remember embarrassing stuff before you can actually like waddle around. I remember all that. It was pretty incredible, but I do. I got stung by a man o' war, one of those one and a half. I remember that. That was interesting.
Speaker 3:What do you really want down Whatever it is you want to share with me? Okay, so basically, when I was two and a half or two and three quarters I think it was almost three because it was prior to Thanksgiving they flew my mom back up here to New Hampshire and they realized they actually like, oh, we like this kid. He's pretty interesting, we actually like him. And they told my mom her name was Debbie, is Debbie, and they're like well, if you want to come back up here because she finished high school down there, you can finish college or just go to college get yourself enrolled and all that stuff.
Speaker 3:And we do like this kid, chris, he's not bad. And so she did. And so we flew back up here to New Hampshire and I used to go to college classes with my mom and she used to buy me markers every day and I would just sit there and draw pictures and portraits of people. I'm pretty good at it, pretty good at it. And once they hired me, then I'm pretty good at it, pretty good at it. And once they hired me, then I'm pretty good at it. So we did that. We did that for a long time. And then my mom well, my dad, randy, he's a fourth-degree black belt in karate. We all grew up in karate. And then my mom she was at a red belt and that's where she met my dad, who was her instructor, and I don't know, magic happened or something. It was pretty amazing.
Speaker 3:However, it works and I remember my grandparents were out of town as usual, and she had my dad come over, my dad, well, you haven't met yet. Randy.
Speaker 3:And it was Valentine's Day, so kind of a romantic day, I assume and he came over and he was just like the coolest dude I've ever met. He's like this is how you put holes in the bottom of chocolates and figure out, like, which ones you like and which ones you don't like. Just put them back, it's all right. And so I'm like this guy is pretty good. Yeah, I like him. I like him a lot beyond.
Speaker 2:this is supernatural what do you mean by supernatural?
Speaker 3:Okay, my grandparents. They collected antiques. It was the antique house. Everything they do is very thorough, all that stuff. So they had a big sleigh bed. Probably weighed about I don't even know five hundred pounds, four hundred pounds I have no idea.
Speaker 3:Too little for a three-and-a-half-year-old. I grew up. I still go through sleep paralysis because of my PTSD and whatnot, things like that but I used to get told what to do. And that night, the night that we broke holes through the chocolates and whatnot, that night, the night that we broke holes through the chocolates and whatnot, I went into my grandparents' bedroom where their sleigh bed was. It was really heavy. Those are heavy mahogany beds. All I remember is just not being able to move and the sleigh bed was over my head and it was a place suffocating me, but it was enough. I had a bloody nose and I remember that and I remember smelling my blood, all that.
Speaker 3:And luckily, with paralysis you might not be able to move your body but you're able to use your voice, which it did, and somehow they heard it. Somehow they heard it. And I just remember him picking up the bed, just pulling me out. I mean, at that point in my life I can say my life by that I mean that's how I felt. Not a lot of people go through this, it's like one in, like 10 million or something, but it matters not. But they heard me and he pulled me out and you know, from that point forward, I'm like, yeah, you're pretty good, you save my life, I'll save yours and I'll support yours. Yeah, loyalty goes a very long way, for sure, for sure. I don't mind sharing this. Yes, there's probably a lot of people that actually want to know what paralysis is, how it feels, how to deal with it and all that stuff, and I can share what I know. There's not a lot of research, but it's a real deal and there's a reason why you deal with it. I get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, can you delve into that?
Speaker 3:Not really. There's not a lot of research. Do you want to know what it feels like?
Speaker 2:Yeah, as best as you can describe it.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, anyone who has gone through it, they will know this. So you're in mid-sleep, you meet your REM sleep because they have the opposite sleep schedule, like I don't fall asleep and then hit my deep sleep schedule. Mine is, you know, star set like maybe 4, 3.30, 3 o'clock am, and that's where it really starts. And so when it does occur, I mean I'm pretty well versed in it now and I know what's going to happen, I know I'm going to be okay, I know it's always going to be all right. So, basically, the physical occurrence is just you can use your voice, you're able to use your voice, which I have many times and you just everything weighs a thousand pounds in your body. You just can't move. You can't move your covers. You can't move your covers. You can't move your hands, you can't. Everything is just. There's nothing you can do except just be like I understand what this is and I'm going to be all right, because paralysis, sleep paralysis never hurt anyone, ever, ever. But it happens to some of us.
Speaker 3:Really if you go the opposite way, is understand your spiritual well-being and understand that alignment which is quite important to me.
Speaker 2:And now, approximately how long does this last?
Speaker 3:22 seconds. 22 seconds to maybe 40 seconds.
Speaker 2:Is this something you experience frequently?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Every other day At least. At least I can always tell when it's going to happen.
Speaker 2:It's that frequent and you can tell when it's going to happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can. How Intuition.
Speaker 2:Int. Yeah, I can how.
Speaker 3:Intuition, intuition. I know I mean to me it's not normal, but it's normal.
Speaker 2:How old were you about when you experienced this?
Speaker 3:the first time, first time five, which that was the most traumatizing one. I mean, I've experienced a lot of things from that point forward. No, but the only time, when I was young, the first time I happened to be face down in my pillow when I was sleeping and I just felt suffocated, I couldn't breathe, I couldn't breathe and I couldn't breathe. I couldn't do anything, couldn't do anything. Couldn't do anything.
Speaker 3:And then I felt like I was little, so I felt like I was in the Jungle Book or something. It's like I can't move, I can't move, I can't do anything, and then just something like energy hits you. It's just like blast you right in the butt. It's like trying to have fresh air and it's like the most fresh air I've ever had in my life, most fresh air I've ever had in my life, most fresh air I've ever had in my life. So these days and since then, I've always slept on my back or on my sides and I know how to deal with it. I do. It's not really dealing with it. It's basically you're opening up yourself. Or you're opened up to something a little different. Make from that what you will. I know what it is. But or you're opened up to something a little different. Make from that what you will.
Speaker 2:I know what it is, but that must have been difficult, though, at five, that first time you.
Speaker 3:Well, I did it last night. So, yeah, it must have been difficult last night.
Speaker 2:You're correct, that too, but I mean, like your first time experiencing that it wasn't more difficult then than it is now that you've experienced it. This frequent.
Speaker 3:I don't like sleeping. No, sleeping is not my favorite. What I go through during sleep is no, thank you, I don't welcome it, I don't want it, I don't like it. I am the most lucid dreamer you've probably ever talked to. No, I don't. No, I don't welcome it, not at all. I wouldn't wish this on people I know, especially the ones that are curious, because, trust me, you don't want to know.
Speaker 2:That's the truth oh.
Speaker 3:Chris, it's all right. You're allowed to ask me these because people need to know, because I'm not the only one in the know, that I deal with other people's. That of you know friends that work in certain fields and whatnot. It is not uncommon, but it comes with the territory.
Speaker 2:So let's backtrack this a little bit. Can you, before you, take us down a little bit about your schooling years? You went back to New Hampshire. How was like middle school, high school, that type of time of your life for you Really Alright.
Speaker 3:Well, I went to public school. I won't say the name of the public school, Everybody figure it out real quick if they want to. So I decided to move to. So I decided to move to Oregon. I decided to move out there and finish things out there, and that's where I finished up my diploma and that's where I graduated. And then I decided to move back to New Hampshire. That's where I went to Keene State and started studying physics. And from that point forward I decided to go into real estate.
Speaker 2:How long did you do real estate for?
Speaker 3:Still do.
Speaker 2:You mentioned physics. Did you do real estate, for I still do. You mentioned physics. Did you do anything with physics?
Speaker 3:Well, kind of Nothing you can know about. What I learned about physics is that I got my doctorate or I got my master's, it doesn't matter. Basically, I either need to become a teacher or I invent something. And then I realized I can do that either way. That's why I decided to go into real estate, and that was 19, or 2021.
Speaker 2:Now, why'd you get into real estate?
Speaker 3:Money, money.
Speaker 2:That's it, just money.
Speaker 3:Well, sure, I could say I like houses and all that stuff which I do, but yes, money. I could say I like houses and all that stuff which I do, but yes, money. I could like houses anyway, but yes money.
Speaker 2:There was no passion for anything relating to that.
Speaker 3:Well, there is a passion, of course. I mean, that's what I do now. I work with masonry. I do something that robots can't like. There's nothing they can do that I can't and they can't. But outside of that, when it comes to fiduciary system, when it comes to finances, things like that, yes, I understand the monetary system and I understood that quite well and yes, but instead of, like most people, going the other way trying to like, oh, rate loans and all that stuff and making 3% and 1% or anything off a million dollar loan or something like that, I'm like hell, no, nope, let's do something structural. It has to be structural. I am a Mason. Everything that we do is structural, no matter what Period.
Speaker 2:So when did you get into Masonry?
Speaker 3:18. I asked that's the rules.
Speaker 2:Now, how did you discover that?
Speaker 3:Well, it's part of the lineage of my family, I guess Particular On the conservative side. That matters not. Why I was drawn to it is because I want to understand certain things, certain things that are really not available in college, all that stuff. So it did so it did and I pointed everything towards that and I can't say I got all the answers I ever asked for at all. Not at all, not right away. It's just a. It's like, basically, you're a fraternity but you do get to know some things which are very important, which is what we're talking about right now. The best way I can answer that as far as your question is concerned.
Speaker 2:So you start doing real estate and I know what you're doing. What do you mean? You know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3:Tell me, go ahead, tell me.
Speaker 2:Tell you what I'm just trying to walk through the journey with you of your life.
Speaker 3:I will tell you I'm listening.
Speaker 2:You said I will tell you, I'm listening. You said you'll tell me.
Speaker 3:Well, you got to ask a question, not good and sakes, I mean the journey of my life, good and sakes. And you know, the best way to ask a question is to ask a question and that's the worst way to ask a question. You know, it's kind of funny, it's kind of an oxymoron, because if we don't do that, that means it's actually called anti-bioprocess. So if we don't do that, I know exactly what that is. I would appreciate if you'd tell me what your questions are, unless you want me to let you know. Of course I can, but you have to ask the right questions.
Speaker 2:I don't ever go into it with specific questions.
Speaker 3:Why not?
Speaker 2:I also have got to be very careful what I say to you, because there's certain things you can't talk about.
Speaker 3:So my structure is different okay, what do you want to know?
Speaker 2:we can't go that deep because there's a lot you can't say. I understand. I'm just trying to figure out how to ask you stuff.
Speaker 3:What do you want to figure out? How does the app give?
Speaker 2:stuff. Just how? Like, how you shifted, like, okay, yeah, you're still doing real estate, but you, at some point in time your life shifted yes, we met at a plant medicine ceremony it's almost three years ago now. Like, and at some point your life shifted from Chris real estate guy who just got the diploma just to get it was, into real estate just for money, you were a different person. How long this to now came that shift? I'm sure there was more than one. No, I'm sure there was more than one. No. So have you heard of a man named Jay Shetty? No, he has a podcast called On Purpose. He wrote a book, motivational Speaker, and he ends his podcast with two segments and I have incorporated those segments into my podcast. So I ask these two segments. First segment is called the Many Sides. To Us Five questions that need to be answered in one word. Each First question. What is one word?
Speaker 3:Wait, wait, wait. What's his last? What's his name?
Speaker 2:Jay Shetty.
Speaker 3:Is there a parallel between him and JP? Or like is there any like? Do I just actually take this off the cuff?
Speaker 2:It's just questions that he asks in his podcast. Okay, it's not. You don't have to know him to be able to answer these questions. These questions are about you. Okay, it's not. You don't have to know him to be able to answer these questions. These questions are about you.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, okay.
Speaker 2:What is one word someone who was meeting you for the first time would use to describe you as?
Speaker 3:What's your first memory?
Speaker 2:Are you asking me my first memory?
Speaker 3:No, but that's my first question. Answer a question with a person. Go ahead Next.
Speaker 2:Chris, what is one word someone who knows you extremely well would use to describe you as?
Speaker 3:Understanding.
Speaker 2:What is one word you'd use to describe yourself?
Speaker 3:Love.
Speaker 2:What is one word that, if someone didn't like you or agree with your mindset, would you use to describe yourself?
Speaker 3:I don't like myself. Retaliation.
Speaker 2:What is one word you're embodying right now?
Speaker 3:You.
Speaker 2:Second segment is the final five. There's five questions, and these can be answered in up to a sentence. What is the best advice you've heard or received?
Speaker 3:Listen to thyself. Why is that the best?
Speaker 2:I believe in truth, listen to thyself.
Speaker 3:Why is that the best I believe in truth? It negates all false. Listen to yourself.
Speaker 2:Know your truth. What is?
Speaker 3:the worst advice you've heard or received. Probably these questions Advice. For goodness sakes. I really disregard all that. When it happens in my life, I don't really care. It matters not. I will hear bad advice, I'll take it away. I work for the biggest names in the freaking business. We don't. It's okay if they get things wrong. What we have to do is be able to keep them on the track, because number one if they address the issue on the track, because number one if they address the issue, then we have the capability to bring them right back on track and that's our job. That's what I do. I don't know what you do, but that's what I mean. I want to call it simple.
Speaker 2:It's not nothing's ever simple, but that's how it's done, simply what is something that you used to value that you no longer value?
Speaker 3:piano. Gosh, yeah, my pianos. I used to have a bunch, but now me living on the farm and we have a lot of stories and apartments and a lot of moving parts, yet can't quite transport pianos, so I don't carry those too much anymore. They are stored in my grandfather's basement and my dad's basement, which he really enjoys having sit there, but he gives them something to bitch about. So, yeah, that's an easy one. And the violins, well, and the violins, because they had some which are very valuable.
Speaker 2:If you could describe what you would want your legacy to be, as if someone was reading it, what would you want it to say?
Speaker 3:I would love someone to be able to find the end of themselves, to be able to understand the beginning of what themselves can be and get rid of anything that is trashing you know, their well-being, their subcontents, anything like that. Just to get rid of that, get rid of that. I to get rid of that, get rid of that. I can help you with that. Just whatever it takes, get rid of that. Find your balance, get rid of that crap. All that stuff. Know what you have to do, make a decision, and that's going to give you your balance between your insecurity and your security. All that stuff because you have to do, make a decision, and that's going to give you your balance between your insecurity and your security. All that stuff because you made a decision, and that's going to tell me volumes.
Speaker 2:If you could create one law in the world that everyone had to follow, what would it be? And I want to know why.
Speaker 3:You don't kill, you don't kill, you don't kill, because it's not your right to take a soul Period.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you. Thank you for speaking with me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3:In an amazing way. This has been the best conversation I could have ever asked for and I appreciate this conversation as well. I really hope that it does reach us and does reach people. I really do. It's different.
Speaker 2:Is there any final words, anything else you want to share with the listeners? No pressure, I do always give it back to the guest.
Speaker 3:Absolutely Remember what your first memory is. I would hone in on that. If you have any questions about yourself, know what that is. Ask yourself to dream about it, pray about it, ask Christ about it, ask whoever you ask about it. Fine, just do it. Answer yourself and yourself will find yourself, and therefore, after that, you will absolutely be able to help other people find themselves. You will find it. I guarantee that. Yeah, I love everybody that's listening. That's great, thank you thank you so much.
Speaker 2:I really appreciate it. I think that makes a lot of sense. I don't reveal a lot about ourselves.
Speaker 3:In my mind. Yes, I don't really think that way. I'm an abstract thinker. So you're asking me very concrete thoughts, which I really appreciate. I like to tie it all together as well as I can, but you know, you come at me with really good questions. I can't linearly think about all these things because I mean, I'm all over the map. There's not much I can do other than just understand. But I want to reach people where they're at and it's very important to me and that was important to you. I really pray I helped you out.
Speaker 2:You did. I really appreciate this. I do Thank you. Thank you for taking the time. Was it worth it? It was worth it. I'm positive it it was worth it. I'm positive it was well worth it. And thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Bander's Mindset.
Speaker 4:In case no one told you today, I'm proud of you, I'm booting for you and you got this as always. If you enjoyed the show, I would really appreciate it if you would leave me a five star rating, leave a review and share it with anyone you think would benefit from this. And don't forget you are only one mindset. Shift away from shifting your life. Thanks guys, until next time.
