Manders Mindset
Hosted by Amanda Russo, The Breathing Goddess, who is a Breathwork Detox Facilitator, Transformative Mindset Coach, and Divorce Paralegal.
Amanda's journey into mindset and empowerment began by working with children in group homes and daycares. She later transitioned to family law, helping people navigate the challenging emotions of divorce. During this time, Amanda also overcame her own weight and health challenges through strength training, meditation, yoga, reiki, and plant medicine.
Amanda also shares her personal journey, detailing how she transformed obstacles into opportunities by adopting a healthier, holistic lifestyle.
Discover practical strategies and inspiring stories that will empower you to break free from limitations and cultivate a mindset geared towards growth and positivity.
Tune in for a fun, friendly, and empowering experience that will help you become the best version of yourself.
Manders Mindset
83: Breaking Barriers: Transitioning to New Careers with No Prior Experience with Chelsea Davis
Unlock the secrets to breaking into new job fields with no prior experience in this episode featuring Chelsea Davis, a seasoned recruiter and career coach. Chelsea’s journey from a strict military upbringing to success in IT, tech, and aerospace offers valuable insights and strategies for anyone seeking a career pivot.
In This Episode, You’ll Learn:
- Tailoring Your Resume: Expert tips on highlighting transferable skills to make your resume stand out.
- Standing Out in a Competitive Market: Lesser-known strategies to capture recruiters’ attention.
- Coping with Job Loss and Toxic Work Environments: Practical advice on managing job loss, updating your resume, and leveraging AI tools.
- Building Resilience and a Support System: How resilience and a strong support network can ease career transitions.
- Optimizing Your LinkedIn Profile: Tips on presenting yourself professionally and avoiding common pitfalls.
- Focusing on a Specific Job Type: Why targeting one job type can enhance your job search and present a cohesive skill set.
- Empowering Your Mindset: Strategies to boost your confidence and stay motivated throughout your career journey.
Tune in for transformative insights and actionable strategies to elevate your career journey, empower your mindset, and achieve job search success.
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Welcome to the Manders Mindset Podcast. Here you'll find both monologue and interviews of entrepreneurs, coaches, healers and a variety of other people where your host, amanda Russo, will discuss her own mindset and perspective and her guest's mindset and perspective on the world around us. Manders and her guests will help explain to you how shifting your mindset will shift your life.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to Mand's Mindset. As always, I'm your host, amanda Russo, and I am here today with a very special guest. I am here today with Chelsea Davis and she is a six-year experience recruiter, career coach, resume writer and job seeker advocate, and she is going to unveil recruiter secrets to getting jobs in fields you guys don't have experience in, and we're going to learn all about that and more job secrets from Chelsea today. Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 3:Thank, you, Amanda. I'm excited you look fabulous today.
Speaker 2:Thank you. So do you and all your pink.
Speaker 3:Thank you, that is my signature. I thought about actually changing my name to like pink career coach or something, because I have pink everywhere, but I won't do that, it might be too much so.
Speaker 2:Okay, have you always loved pink Girl, absolutely.
Speaker 3:So I'm a twin and my parents used to dress us up in pink and purple. Pink's still my favorite color. Purple is not hers.
Speaker 2:Hers is mint, but yes, mint, but yes, absolutely so yeah, so you're a twin, okay, so how was that growing up with a twin sister?
Speaker 3:okay, we hated each other 1000%. Couldn't stand each other. She's beat my ass a million times because I talk shit, but that's okay. Now we love each other. Obsessed probably 10 times a day FaceTime, but yeah she's a recruiter.
Speaker 2:How did that evolve? How did that your relationship?
Speaker 3:Get better kind of in time after we saw that like people ain't shit and everybody just leaves, so yeah, but we're a lot closer now, so it's nice.
Speaker 2:Do you have any other?
Speaker 3:siblings, I'm one of five, yeah, so but I just talked to my older brother and my older sister really so baby brothers and my just a little bit.
Speaker 2:but that's okay. I'd love if you could get into a little bit about your background, like where you grew up up-bunging anything you want to share with it.
Speaker 3:A lot of it actually brought me to where I am today with my business. So everybody has trauma, though. I grew up in Florida and my parents my dad is military and he was very strict, very much hustle, like get your shit done, get a job, do what you have to do, get a job. You know we always had to have a job. But yeah, so growing up very funny never knew I had ADHD or anything else, and it kind of explained my job hopping, because I'm not joking you, I've had 21 jobs before I started recruiting. So I always needed two or three jobs at a time to make sure I pay my bills, because we were not my parents, were not the kind that would just dish out money if you needed something. So I've always had several jobs at a time. But then actually my twin sister was doing recruiting first. She got me into recruiting by changing my resume up, doing what I have to do, what she had to do to help me get a job, and she did. So, yeah, it's weird how every job that I've had not any of my service industry jobs, but any of my office type jobs all had something that I learned that I use today in my business. So, and then, of course, the job hopping slash bunch of jobs that I've had. I just learned how to do interviews over and figure out what I had to do, just to make sure I had my money. Didn't have to do nothing crazy so. But yeah, that's kind of how I got started with recruiting. I think that was I don't know if I answered that question With recruiting. So I started 2017, end of 2017.
Speaker 3:My sister and I were on the manufacturing service type of industry company and that started me out. It was staffing, then recruiting. Typically, there's three different types of recruiting RPO staffing and corporate. I went into, if I'm not mistaken, an RPO where there's one big company that pays you but then you work on several contracts that they have signed with a client. So I was able to work in IT, tech, manufacturing, pharma, crop science, aerospace. So that's kind of how I was able to dip my feet into several different fields. So I know the background, I know what's going on that they don't want you to know, so and I was like, period, I'm going to spill all of it. So that's my jam too.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so now you said your sister was into and she helped you update your resume yep, so I was actually at the time.
Speaker 3:I was in optical, so I was a optometric technician and an ophthalmic tech, so I helped the eye doctors that did LASIK and cataract surgery and then I helped the eye doctors that did glasses and stuff and contacts. So yeah, we basically same thing. People talk about tailoring your resume nowadays. Same thing. Back then she just only spoke about the things that I did within those roles that could have been recruiting related. So instead of saying, oh well, I help people put their contacts on or I help people buy glasses or whatever, she didn't mention those because they're not necessary. So that's kind of how she or how I was able to get that on my resume to get myself in the door. And that's what we need to do nowadays is just get ourselves in the door. It's hard, the market's a mess and people are just gatekeeping and telling you all kinds of stuff that is not necessary right now.
Speaker 3:I've seen a lot of coaches and resume writers oh, you need to show your value in your resume, you need to do this, that and the other. Okay, well, my value is not going to be shown in three, four paragraphs on a piece of paper, is not going to be shown in three, four paragraphs on a piece of paper. That's like saying a eulogy for someone you love that passed away, and saying that tiny few paragraphs or things about that person shows you everything you need to know about them and how amazing they were. It doesn't? It's a few paragraphs. You'll never know unless you knew them. So that's the same thing with resumes You'll never know how good someone is candidate-wise until you actually talk to them. So that's the same thing with resumes You'll never know how good someone is candidate wise until you actually talk to them. So my, my method is to get your ass in the door. That's it.
Speaker 2:That's very interesting to me that you compared somebody to a resume, somebody's apology to a resume.
Speaker 3:It's one of the things that makes people understand it, cause you can never. Resumes are stupid, number fucking one. They are so stupid to me. I so our cover letters, all of it, just give me a job. First of all, I didn't ask to be here. I really didn't. This place is ghetto, leave me alone. I just, literally, am trying to pay these bills that I didn't ask to have. So, girl, I'm not wrong, so it's just terrible.
Speaker 3:You're good. No, you're good Cause it's true, bitch, I didn't ask for all this. I did not ask to be here. Just give me the job so I can pay my bills and go home. There's no more like there's no enjoying your job really anymore. Actually Okay, that's a lie. I love what I do 1000%. Best job I've ever had is what I do now and having my own business. But nobody loves their job anymore. I don't know anybody that does, unless they have their own business.
Speaker 3:So why are we trying to push that Like, oh well, you know, you need to love the job you're trying to get and you need to show passion. Bitch, no, I don't care so, but right, it's just, it's a shit show out here. Nobody really wants to do all this. So we're doing it because we have to. Don't get it twisted so, but yeah so, but I'm just saying Don't get it twisted so, but yeah so, but I'm just saying Don't get it twisted, Right, right, right so, and I am. That is kind of my.
Speaker 3:Also my attitude towards this is just again, doing what you have to do, the finessing, like I was saying, to get in the door If you have to change your name, which a lot of black and brown minorities never get discriminated against when it comes to their resumes and interviews, and I've seen it firsthand. I've watched hiring managers and recruiters discriminate just based off your name alone. So I will tell my clients to change their name if they have to. So and they do end up seeing a significant change in interviews and reach outs and stuff, which is sad. But that's where we are. So, but yeah, so it's. I mean, that's where we are. There's nothing we can do about it except play the game. So it's.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's where we are. There's nothing we can do about it except play the game, it's true. Now I want to backtrack just a little bit. But you mentioned you were in Optical and your sister helped you tailor your resume to get into recruiting. What made you decide then was when you wanted to leave Optical and get into recruiting full time.
Speaker 3:Oh, just wanted to work from home. That was it. Nothing special, yeah, so, and she had what's it called. I think she said something, I think it was she, her team was hiring or something, I don't know, but it wasn't nothing special special. It just was getting a job from home and that's all I wanted. So it was a lot easier back then too, which really sounds crazy saying back then that's not that long 2017 and end of 2017, 2018, two years, not even six full years ago but the market is changing and giving people whiplash. It changes every fucking day, so that is technically a long time ago. If that mindset makes sense.
Speaker 2:So what was your first step in leaving optical and transitioning to recruiting full-time?
Speaker 3:Well, just the resume and then also kind of knowing a little bit about what I had to do. She kind of gave me, like we did, a lot of interview prepping so I had to learn anything that was in the description or in the thing she did. We spoke about it, just freaking quiz the crap out of me so that I knew everything to speak to and then if there was stuff I did not know, I would just go do the research on it and then once you get in the door, some companies will train you not all of them, but some companies are already going to train you in 90 days or less. So why are you telling me I can't do the job, even though I have a little bit of experience? It doesn't make any sense. So that's why I tell people you can get the job you want If you have a little bit experience. Don't say you want to be a doctor Can't be a doctor, but if you have a little bit of the experience in the field already.
Speaker 2:So you left optical and then you went to recruiting full-time and did you start working with your sister?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I did so she and I were on the same team and then basically actually I kind of followed her. So we just any job basically that she had I would go with her. But then I think we stopped working in the same company probably 2021. But she was actually. She got me into my second to last company, which actually I'll speak to that too.
Speaker 3:So I was going to say my, I got let go from my favorite job, slash company. I mean same job, but it was recruiting for people in pharma that were making the ingredients that go into some of prescriptions and stuff like that. So I love that company. They're very good to us. They had amazing PTO benefits, all the above. But they did a mass layoff. Everybody's doing a frigging layoff right now, obviously, and also it's for no reason and I'll go back to that too. But anyway I got let go in end of February last year March 1st was my last day, mass layoff. My whole team got let go and it was literally the day I think the day before or after that, they let me know that me and my fiance went under contract on our first house. So that was terrible. So I for the entire month of March till we closed on our house, which was like April 4th, 5th, 6th, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I was going ham applying to jobs. Got to another job, am applying to jobs. Got to another job. Thought it was amazing more pay, whatever. Then got hella, racist situation, got into a lot of racist situations from hiring managers and to no fault of my own, and then got let go again. So I got let go twice last year. Miserable, absolutely miserable. So it's such a gross feeling too. Have you actually been like that before? Or yeah, yep, yes, I have. It's such a like. It's depressing, it's like grieving, like actual, like an actual loss kind of thing.
Speaker 2:No, it is, it is. Yeah, it was so unexpected for me See it coming at all, did you either time?
Speaker 3:Well, listen, I don't know. I let go from a bunch of jobs before, but not in recruiting, not until then. So the mass layoff that one was a surprise. The last one that I had at GE Aerospace was not a surprise. I saw it coming. I was having panic attacks every day, every day.
Speaker 3:I wish I was joking, but it's nasty when you have hiring managers that are not only trying to micromanage you, tell you how to do your job when you've been recruiting for six years, but then also not having a manager to back you up when you know that what's going on is racism. I literally got in trouble for having too big of a space in an email. I wish I was joking. I have the screenshots. Insane, I wish I was joking. The hiring managers literally it's two weeks in. I like literally two weeks in Never met these ladies before I get on a call and they are telling me that I am. They told my boss that I looked unprofessional and I sounded unprofessional. Bitch, I could get unprofessional if you want me to try it. So, and I wasn't. So it was miserable and it really took a toll and there's a lot of people going through that. Sorry, I know I'm talking a lot, by the way, so feel free to interrupt me, you're fine, I was listening.
Speaker 2:I was listening to you. I do so. Do you have any suggestions for any listeners? If they whether it was a recent thing, or maybe it's been a while, but they, or maybe even if somebody hears this down the line and they find themselves getting laid off from work, what would you suggest be their first step that they take?
Speaker 3:Fucking cry, just cry, it's okay, it sucks. So fucking bad Cry. Scream, go, I don't. Do something that's not related to the job. Do something that's not related to the job Because if you go in right off the bat, struggling upset, depressed everything, yes, you're going to be semi-upset throughout this process, but if you don't just let that out right at the beginning, before you get started, it's just going to kill you. So that's first Second. Then start getting your resume updated.
Speaker 3:If you don't have the means to get a resume writer or a career coach, ai is okay. Okay, ai is okay if you know how to prompt. Literally go on YouTube or watch a few good TikToks on how to make sure that you are not showing the signs of AI. There's a bunch of words you all know that are literally AI. Like you know, you get those emails and it says I hope this email finds you well when you try to do those emails, so I don't mind it If you don't have the means for any of it, just go back, check your stuff, make sure it doesn't sound crazy. Don't use resume, what's it called? Don't use resume templates.
Speaker 3:I say literally, just write it out, that's it. It sounds crazy. Or just you could look at a template and just make sure the structure looks the same skills, job experience, education, that's it. But do not copy that template. The templates that are in Microsoft, the ones you see online, ones you see from some of these coaches that are trying to sell it for like 50, $60, those ones are ones that can get rejected easily, and I'll speak to that too. So just get on Microsoft, get on Google Docs, create it, go through everything, make sure that it doesn't look too crazy and then go ahead and get started on your search and make sure you have a LinkedIn profile. I cannot stress that enough, cannot stress that enough. Why?
Speaker 2:would they get rejected Because it's a resume template?
Speaker 3:So the resume templates have which is so crazy that people don't know a lot of them have either lines or symbols or shapes or whatever it is, or a header and a footer, which you should absolutely not have. All of those things cannot be parsed through. So that's like your very first rejection. So there's three things. So first thing is actually no, I didn't. First thing is those preliminary questions like hey, how many years experience, whatever, like you see on LinkedIn. Listen, say fucking yes to all of them. Say yes, that way you can get your foot in the door. They, if you can just do that and then send your resume and it'll at least get to a human, and then send your resume and it'll at least get to a human. And if you can get to a human, then at least you can tell them more about yourself. Or even if they see and read your resume and they're like, oh, nope, you don't have any of that experience that I need, then they could be like, oh, they may be better for this position I have open, so just say yes to those. This position I have open, so just say yes to those. But your shapes, symbols, headers, footers, whatever they are, actually the system cannot scan them, so it's just looking for words. It doesn't want nothing crazy, and having all those on templates and stuff are just one of the biggest things that people don't realize are getting them rejected.
Speaker 3:And then the next is your qualifications. So don't use a template, just pay attention to what it needs you to have information-wise. That's it, though. So, yeah, fun fact of the day, so, and ATS systems are nothing new. That is the frustrating part.
Speaker 3:Ats systems have been used for years. That is the frustrating part. Ats systems have been used for years. I couldn't tell you how long, but the same ATS systems I've used six, seven years ago, 10 years ago for my sister are the same shit that they're doing today. There's no special AI thing that they're doing. They're not scoring your resume. It's literally the job description says six years. So your resume needs to say six years. Even if you don't have six years, bitch, put it on. What is four years going to make if you don't have six years? And you have four years, what is sorry? What is those two years going to do? Not a fucking thing. You're not learning anything extra, unless it's management, so don't worry about it. Put six Just again. Don't do say you're a doctor, so but yeah, so the templates are a no-go for me.
Speaker 2:So you think people should be saying, if the five years of experience and they have two years experience, they should still be saying, and they have two years experience, they should still be safe.
Speaker 3:Depends. So if you genuinely can go through that list, so yes and no. So if you can genuinely go through that job description and you're like bitch, I swear I can do all of that and you can prove it in the way you speak and you have some examples. Sure, go off, queen. I've done it before. I've done it before and I know a lot of people who have two and it works. Because what are they going to do? They're not arresting you. Nobody's going to do anything about it. Bitch, you lied Okay, so fire me, bitch, I'll find another job, thanks. Next, it's okay and they won't find that out until your background check anyways, but the hiring manager does not know that information. All the hiring manager sees typically because I know I'm going to have people come for me about it Typically the hiring manager sees if you are who you say you are and if you're a criminal or not. Typically Then your background check's done by a third. Now I want to transition a little bit Then your background check's done by a third.
Speaker 2:Now I want to transition a little bit, so I'm wondering how important would you say it is for job seekers to tailor their resumes to catch a specific job application, and what would you say are some key elements for them to focus on?
Speaker 3:Vital Chances are. You may or may not be seen if you're not tailoring your resume. So we are not doing anymore. Oh well, they're jack of all trades. They can do this, they can do that. They have a million different skills in this field, but also in this one. Sadly, it's not like we're not really doing that anymore. Now it is.
Speaker 3:We're changing our job titles and we're only speaking to in those job titles responsibilities that are similar to what you are trying to get. So, say, you are doing account management, you have been in HR or vice versa. You're only going to talk to anything that you've done within your HR roles that has been managing any type of accounts, and then we're changing the job. Change the job title, genuinely change your job title. So if you were the HR manager and now you're doing account management, put account management, because that technically is account management. That is what it is. So if you see that in the job description you put that one and then a variation of that, so by a variation of that, account executive could be account specialist or account manager whatever. Account specialist or account manager whatever, as long as it's in those that kind of like bubble same job, different titles, but same time okay, and how would you suggest they go about changing the titles in the description?
Speaker 2:if it's a first time looking to change it, to alter it, how do you suggest they do it? Figure out.
Speaker 3:So, okay, yes, I like to just go through.
Speaker 3:Well, I'd say it's a different method that I do as a coach, because I don't want people to have to go in depth the way I do. But your best bet is to make sure again, you're going to find a job that is similar to things that you've done before, and then you're going to look through a few different jobs, slash job titles to see which one resonates the closest to you and what you've done before, and then that job title, and then any variation of that specific one, is going to be the one that you're tailoring your resume to and transitioning into. So it's all about, kind of like, doing that research and you have to have, you have to niche down, you have to pick one. You can't be like you know again two jobs that have account executive experience and then two HR Nope, all has to be one, which is again crazy, cause I'm not dedicating my life to one job. That's crazy, but to at least just get your foot in the door. That's how we're tailoring and that's how we are helping to see that we know how to do that work.
Speaker 3:Did that answer your question? Yeah, okay okay.
Speaker 2:So would you say, if there's someone who's unsure of exactly what type of job they want to do maybe they have two or three jobs in mind should they be tailoring the resume each time they are applying to each type of job?
Speaker 3:No. So here's what I'd say. So you need to sit down, think about which one you are genuinely like, the best at, as far as, again, your skills, responsibility and your past. Focus on that one for a hot minute. Then, if you really aren't getting any fish, then try those other two. But again, do not. You should not have three different types.
Speaker 3:They want to see like, oh, like she's been working at this job or, sorry, at this kind of or in this kind of field, in this industry, whatever for a long time, but obviously not too long, because there's age discrimination, which is stupid too. But yeah, because also your LinkedIn kind of needs to match as well. So we don't want to have to keep going back and forth. So you're going to have a resume with that specific job, with the skills that are necessary for that job, and stick to that for a minute. And again, if you're not catching fish, change it. Then we'll start on another route.
Speaker 3:But it's taking people minimum two, three weeks ish to get any type of response. If you're doing like the methods that I always suggest two to three weeks to at least get a either rejection or whatever from just one company alone. So, even though you're not hearing from all 5,000 that you did, from at least one company alone. In and of itself, it's going to take probably two, three weeks, maybe four. Yeah, it's a lot and it's very annoying and tedious, but it's just. I think it's just because of how competitive it is right now why would you say it's so competitive right now?
Speaker 3:girl. There are six, point. I don't know if I have the, where we go? 6.3, 6.5 million people unemployed as of january this year. Everybody's looking for a job. Everybody got to let go. So we're just fucking trying to pay bills. So people are applying to apply. Some people may slip in through the cracks and just get that, but probably not. That's why a lot of people see rejection. So it's just, it's a nightmare out here and just we have to do whatever possible so we can fight the rest of the sharks and get ourselves in. So but yeah, that's what I'd say.
Speaker 2:What would you say are some of the red flags that you look for when reviewing somebody's resume or LinkedIn?
Speaker 3:you look for when reviewing somebody's resume or LinkedIn. So resume alone. I am looking first for your format, of course, like the shapes and fonts and whatever. Like I was saying, I look to see if you have any way of discrimination. Of course, sorry, your name, your, if you have your graduation dates, absolutely not take it off. If you have funky, like your words are kind of all over the place and you're not actually like telling them okay, here's what I did, here's the task and project, whatever, and here's the money I made the company. Cause that's ultimately what they want to see on your resume is how much money you made the company. That's corporate for you. So I look for that. And then I look for length. Shouldn't have more than two pages Unless you actually. No, there's just no reason. A recruiter average they are reading your resume max six to 13 seconds, that's it. So you got six to 13 seconds to get your shit in front of their face that they need to know and that they're looking for the hiring manager, and then that's it. So it's all. Just gotta be there, concise, quick, the skills they want, bam.
Speaker 3:Also, your education doesn't really matter anymore either. So I read, I was reading recently four out of five companies are starting to take out bachelor's degrees and degree requirements period in 2024. So don't fucking worry about it. Certifications trade school you'll be okay. Experience skills you'll be okay. You don't have to even have the certifications. You don't have to do that Just depends on the job, though, too.
Speaker 2:Now you say they're looking at it for about 6 to 13 seconds. Is there a specific spot or section per se on the resume that they are looking more so at first, or for the 6 to 13?
Speaker 3:Yeah, your dates of employment, your, your job titles and your skills. That's really it. So, and then I definitely forgot to answer your question about linkedin. But that's those, are it? So that's the only things that are going to be genuinely important, because, honestly, sure, I, as a recruiter, need all of those three, but the hiring manager needs to know the money and what you did to improve any processes in the company that you were in. So I don't care about all those extra details of your sentences and executed this and did that. I don't care about all those extra details of your sentences and executed this and did that. I don't care. So, then, but when it comes to your LinkedIn profile your LinkedIn profile, first of all don't worry about the connections, but you need to be connecting with people, point blank, period need to do it.
Speaker 3:Linkedin profiles you want a picture that is not a filter. You want a picture of yourself. You can use AI, that's fine, and you need to have a banner. You want to make sure of yourself. You can use AI, that's fine, and you need to have a banner. You need to have a strong headline with your years, experience and your job titles. The LinkedIn's, though, are different nowadays, so they are trying to push us more towards making it a what's it called Like truly becoming a social media for professionals. Because of so many people being in the job market, there's more people on it, so they want to see authenticity, so they don't want to see you copy and paste your shit from your resume in there. So we are making it more like a story, if that makes sense and confidence and stuff. So yeah, so that's kind of also so yeah, what is that? But that is where we are with LinkedIn.
Speaker 2:Would you say there is anything you say is a hard no that you definitely don't want to have on your LinkedIn.
Speaker 3:Anything that is going to get you discriminated against LGBTQ LMNOP. Anything that is going to get you discriminated against LGBTQ LMNOP Black Brown society, college, whatever I mean it sucks because it is. That is a part of who we are 1000%, and you should never have to take away who you are for a job ever. But that's where we are. If you want a job sadly, unless you're applying to companies that are genuinely like that is what they do and you're you know you're working in a black and tech company or whatever, if that's what it genuinely is, sure, corporate. No, if you're trying to get some type of remote job, don't do it. Don't do it.
Speaker 2:Don't do it, just take it off it sucks and you mentioned linkedin is basically like the professional social media, which it is transitioning towards that in your eyes, how would you say or would you say people should approach that social media differently than they approach other social media?
Speaker 3:Don't post your political opinions and stuff on there. No, so it's more so just getting into there's groups. There's networking events and stuff that you can go on to on LinkedIn if you just type it in the search bar. But you can go into groups according to your job or your field, industry, whatever, and just talk to people like you normally would. You're just hey, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3:I remember having something happen like that to me too, or period that you are so right about that. You know just, it's just, people are thinking too hard into it. You don't have to be exactly formal, like the way you do your resume and stuff, but you don't want to be obnoxious. I'm obnoxious because I will come after people. I sure do.
Speaker 3:There was the other day some stupid ass creator and he said stuff about how you know if you work hard, then you'll get hired. If you wouldn't, what was it? He said all kinds of stupid shit, basically shitting on job seekers and saying America. So I'm like bro, it's not like that. Nobody wants to work, nobody wants to do this shit again. We're literally here because we don't have a choice. Fuck off, shut up. Oh, he said no, don't lie on your resume. Make an actual cover letter.
Speaker 3:Bitch, don't do a cover letter, I mean unless it's required. I don't. I just have basic templates because nobody reads them. I've never read one, never read one. Never had a hiring manager be like, oh, I need their cover letter. Why? I said that too. I was like why are you? I said that in my post. I said hi, sorry, job seekers do not care to write these cover letters for you because they are being asked to do them for every company. What is it for other than to stroke your company's ego or yours? What makes your company so special? Is it you? Because it's not so.
Speaker 2:I just Now you said this to someone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bitch, I swear to God, I sure did. I did. On LinkedIn Girl, I told you I'd be throwing hands, I don't care, because it's these big wigs, these big LinkedIn creators that try to say stuff and it discourages people, it makes people think, oh my God, I'm not going to get a job because I'm not doing this or whatever. Not true? Fuck off, sir. Disrespectfully Listen. It's my, my business now so I can say what I want to say and I don't have to worry about my employer getting mad. So that is exactly what I like to do. I'm trying to see where did it go?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he said here's what I said, because he kept doing stop doing this. And I said to him hey, rob, you have some typos in your post, so I just wanted to help you. I told you I'm spicy. I said stop lying in job descriptions and be honest about those 50 different jobs that the employee will actually be doing. That has maybe one actual task. That's in the job title. I said hence the three to six months time that you just said that someone spends at your company and your contradictory statement about falling for the exciting new opportunity. I said Ella, wasn't that y'all spiel too, didn't you guys say you were this Right, shut up. I said stop expecting candidates, just like I said stroke your company's ego or yours, so that you can continue to be delusional in thinking your company actually has something people are interested in.
Speaker 3:Dumbass, because I hate it. I hate them. Stop saying this shit, cause nobody, nobody, cares. Oh, he said something about you're making the company culture bad, and I said your culture is already trash. People are already and have been leaving and will continue to until corporate people get their shit together. Your sales and your service bullshit. You're correct, we don't give a fuck at all. Right, say something slick, stupid. I hate it. It's such a terrible feeling to see people you know say this stuff to people that are losing their homes and losing their house. They're sorry, losing just everything they have. That means something to them. So don't fucking talk like that on social media, like this. So yes, I'll be fine I'm dumb.
Speaker 3:Yeah there, anything you would say as a no to put on the resume other than I think I mentioned just the dates and, um, anything that could cause the discrimination against name, your what's it called? Your background. You should not be having your entire address on there. All you need is city, state, call it a day. Yeah, that's really all I'd say. I don't have very much other than those, yeah, so now in terms of skills for a resume, how?
Speaker 2:and experience. How far back of experience do you think? 10 years max?
Speaker 3:Unless you were like I had a nurse who had 26 years, I'll say 15 plus Okay, that's it, because they'll know you have more experience. When you have the interview. They you put that on your application. You can get just get rejected off that alone because you're either overqualified or under.
Speaker 2:so 15 plus years or, if need be, change it yeah, okay, but like so in in terms of like experience though, like job, like so go how far back?
Speaker 3:you're saying like years and stuff, yeah, math, I mean the 10, so yeah, the 10 to 15. But what is it? If it's a job that you had, that you can say you had, that has the experience or whatever that you're needing, bring that back up and take one out and then change the dates. What are they going to say Again? What are they going to say Nothing. They can't say anything, so does that?
Speaker 2:make sense to you yeah, okay, so now in terms of skills, oh, sorry, I forgot.
Speaker 3:Skills are we're not doing soft skills. I hope you can communicate, I hope you have team building skills. I hope you can multitask. I hope you're organized by now. I don't care, I don't care about it. Hard skills are the ones that are like the systems and role specific skills. So like, if you are an HR manager, do you have HR processes that you know are specific, that you can't find in another HR job? Put it up there. Any methods, again, any methods or computer skills that you have that are for your job, all go up there. So those are the kinds of skills they're looking for. At least the recruiter is yeah, okay, did that answer that too?
Speaker 2:Yeah, to you. Yeah, okay, would you say there's a certain amount that they people don't want to have more than certain amount of skills.
Speaker 3:No, just don't like they should be just at the top kind of thing and just separated by a few things, by like a, like the, you see, like not the bracket, I don't know what it's called but they should just be separated and just be all up in like almost paragraph form in a way, but not listed because it's going to take up too much space in your resume.
Speaker 2:So be mindful. Okay, and it's so it should go. If we're looking at the resume, it should be the name, their name and Yep All contacted, okay, okay, and then skills, then experience yep, yeah, and then education, call it a day okay, and what for experience? What are, would you suggest they list with the title?
Speaker 3:Well, just the one that I was saying earlier, just the ones that are changing and relating them to what job you're trying to apply to.
Speaker 2:So do not put your current one, unless it's one that is already on that job description. Well, don't put your current. What?
Speaker 3:Current job title the job title. If that job title is not on the job description, change it. If it does not say account executive and it is a HR job, you need to be changing that to HR on your resume. That title my dogs Hot mess express. Sorry, Am I losing you?
Speaker 2:No, I think I get what you're saying, okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not Well, so it's. I think it can be confusing and stressful and stuff for people, especially when they've already done 5 million other things to get their resume together. So I think that's the biggest thing that job seekers get scared of. So I think there was something. Oh, I was going to say something I was going to. I didn't want to forget to say 30 applications a week. Do not mass apply. Mass applying you're already going out of the game or getting kicked out of the game because you are applying to jobs that either you're not qualified for or that are already scams or ghost posts, whatever. Just really quality over quantity. So in any job board, just don't stick to the same two. Don't stick to just those popular ones. Use any. Just don't stick to one because you're going to miss out on a bunch of jobs.
Speaker 2:So by doing that, Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Okay, now you mentioned scams, so you don't want to be mass applying Yep, they're everywhere, would? What would you say are maybe some key ways for people to recognize some scam jobs, yep.
Speaker 3:Pay attention. If they're asking for money, pay attention to how quick the turnaround is. Look at the email they should not have. They should have your name, address you by your name. Hey, amanda, I noticed you applied blah blah blah. Most have signatures in the profile stuff at the bottom. Most companies do. If they don't have some of that information, I'd be a little bit skeptical and just go double check your work. Go through the company page, see if the job's there. Go through LinkedIn. Look at that person's profile. So those are ginormous red flags that are pretty common and I've had several clients get scammed out of money.
Speaker 2:So is that what they typically scam people out of is getting money from them? Yep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know anything else that they would be scamming for.
Speaker 2:but yeah, or their personal information, okay so okay, now can you share some success stories of job seekers you've worked with and how you helped them land their dream job?
Speaker 3:So funny, craziest one I've been able to do. I had a guy that worked at Pizza Hut and I was able to get him a job in cybersecurity. So again, we didn't put so like Pizza Hut. They have their corporate name on, like their, all their W-2 paperwork and all of their what is it like? Paychecks and stuff. So it was like something incorporated. We're not going to put Pizza Hut on there because someone's going to be stupid and discriminate and be like, why is this guy from Pizza Hut trying to do cybersecurity? So we changed the company name. You can abbreviate your company name too if you don't want it to be discriminated against. Because I mean you just abbreviated it, it's okay.
Speaker 3:And we only spoke to anything he learned in his certifications that he did for Google cybersecurity work. So he was a good one. I did, I did a teacher to a recruiter. I did I've done teachers to HR and again, it's just all speaking to only those things that they've done in that type of field that they wanted to get into. So, yeah, super cool. And again, it's just all speaking to only those things that they've done in that type of field that they wanted to get into. So, yeah, super cool. And it's always crazy because they really don't think I can do it. I'm like, just watch, I got you girl.
Speaker 2:Okay, any other success stories that stand out to you that you can share with us?
Speaker 3:I well. So actually recently I had two graduates One had just graduated and two, three, no, three weeks after. So about actually so two weeks. Because it was 14 days yeah, 14 days, good math, charles. She got an interview just after graduating. And then, because we started working together before then and got all of her stuff together, then another one she had been looking after. She graduated a year ago. She just came to me and we got her an interview in 12 days. So I don't promise it, but majority of my clients have been able to get at least the interview in 90 days or less. But it's with using the tools I give you and really being dedicated to actually getting it done. So I give you everything you need. I can't hold your hand, but I give you everything you need and then literally I give you all the steps. I give you everything, the connection messages, the everything. So you just have to do the work, okay.
Speaker 2:Sorry, okay, sorry, yeah. Wow, that's awesome. And how do you support them through this mentally?
Speaker 3:So it is. I'm here to vent, I'm here to cry, I'm here. Whatever you need, it doesn't matter Is I'm here to vent, I'm here to cry, I'm here. Whatever you need, it doesn't matter, but I'd say I do. I have a lot of clients that just need the confidence back. So just showing them and pulling that back out of them like bitch don't let these companies make you think that you're not worth something, because you obviously are. So doing that, keeping in contact, having them, let me know if they need anything and if we need to re-strategize. If, like, 90 days come and you're like Chelsea, I can't get anything, we're going to talk about it. Figure out what else we do need to do. So just being there is actually a lot of my testimonials that I'm getting from people is just being there, helping them get their confidence back and just being kind. So cause people need that right now. It's a shit show out here, so just fucking be nice, it's free.
Speaker 2:I love that. Yeah, and that's fucking facts. Have you heard of a man named Jay Shetty?
Speaker 3:Yes, is he an Indian dude, blue eyes. Yes, I love him. He's so nice. Yes, have you met? Him. No bitch. No, I just know him Because I've seen him everywhere on TikTok and YouTube and stuff.
Speaker 2:But his stuff is so true, my naive ass you, his stuff is so. True, my naive ass. You said he's so nice. It sounds like he was your fucking friend.
Speaker 3:I only wish, I only wish. No, he's very I love what he does for people and I think for me, being able to do what I love and knowing that I'm making this kind of difference in people's lives sounds cheesy as shit, but it genuinely makes me love what I do. So it's very hard to step away and like give myself a break, but I'm like I just want to help. I know this is going to help her or him or whatever. So you know and it's. I literally have been in the middle of walmart crying with a client actually several so when they call me, I'm like let's go, it's exciting, it's like a giant, you know. Relief because it like having a job literally is what makes you able to live life and do things. Because you have to have money, sadly, so, yeah, so it's really exciting. Bella, I need you to go lay down, I have a cat, sorry. Anyway, she's an idiot.
Speaker 2:So you have heard of Jay Shetty and he has a podcast called On Purpose and now he does every episode with this this. But he ends most of his podcasts with two segments and I've started incorporating them on my podcast. So the first segment is called the many sides to us. There's five questions and they need to be answered with one word.
Speaker 3:Each need to be answered with one word each okay, oh shit, okay good and you can't repeat the word okay, period, okay, go off queen.
Speaker 2:One what is one word someone who was meeting you for the first time would use to describe you? Passionate. Two what is one word someone who knows you extremely well would use to describe you?
Speaker 3:Okay, wait, Can I take that back? Then I was going to say Okay. I just switched them Bubbly for the first, one, passionate for the second Is that okay.
Speaker 2:That's not how this works. You can't switch.
Speaker 3:Okay, remind me again. So then, what is the second question? What?
Speaker 2:would someone who first meets you. The second one is someone who knows you extremely well I just I guess bubbly, then that's mine you sound so upset because I wanted the first one it's okay.
Speaker 3:It's okay, it's okay, you can switch. Okay, it's good. Okay, you can switch. You can switch Period. Thank you, okay, go over again. I'm writing them down so I don't forget.
Speaker 2:Three. What is one word you'd use to describe yourself?
Speaker 3:This is. I feel like this needs to be one word Is love, like I love hard. That is technically, let's say that's just one. We're combining it because I do. I love hard and I care a lot about people, family, friends, whoever doesn't matter. I will literally just help anybody. Literally just help anybody. Walmart, if I hear somebody talking about something, I'm like girl, listen, I know, you know, I wanted to let you know, and my fiance and my brothers and sisters are all like chelsea. They didn't ask, I'm like, but they said thanks because they never knew that and they'll use it. So but yeah, I love people hard.
Speaker 2:So you talk to random people in Walmart when you go to the gym? I sure fucking do.
Speaker 3:I will butt in If it's something I know about and I want to give them a fact, I'll be like. Actually I just heard your conversation, sorry.
Speaker 2:They'll thank me later. Do you have an example, because I'm so curious right now.
Speaker 3:Well, I was at Dollar Tree and I heard a girl say something about a background check. I was like hey, guess what? I'm a career coach, just want to. You know, don't worry about your background check. Were you guys talking about that? And they're like yeah, I was. And I was like period, see, thank you. I told you I can do that and people appreciate it. So I started talking about what I do.
Speaker 2:So that way they know Hot mess, hot mess. Number four what is one word that if someone who didn't like you or agree with your mindset would use to describe you?
Speaker 3:I mean, wouldn't everybody call it like be like you're a bitch, I don't know, be like you're a bitch, I don't know someone. If someone didn't like me, what would they say? I, I'm telling you, I don't know anybody. That period, no aggressive, maybe not aggressive. No, what was it not aggressive? Yeah, actually we'll go with aggressive because I can be my sister says I can be, sometimes about stuff.
Speaker 2:Okay, what is one word that you embodying right now?
Speaker 3:What does that mean? Like who I am and what I'm trying to be, or who you know? Is that what you mean? Yeah, one word of what I'm trying to embody, grace.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, the second segment is the final five and there's five questions and they can be answered in a sentence. Okay, Thank God, Bitch, I talk a lot Clearly so sorry, number one what is the best advice you've heard or received?
Speaker 3:What is the best advice that I've ever heard or received, other than, let me think, run life at your own pace? That's actually a tattoo I have, so it's a quote and a great piece of advice. Fuck everybody, do your shit at your own time and don't worry about everybody else and what they're doing, especially in the job field, too. There's no race. There's no reason to. Well, right now, that's a fucking race, but stop comparing yourself to other people and where they are in their lives. Run your life at your own pace, you'll be okay. You what? Well, also, this is sort of one. What is for you will never miss you. So that's actually kind of the same thing, but yeah, so I would say that's a good one too. Sorry.
Speaker 2:Okay, Number two what is the worst advice you've heard or received? What is the?
Speaker 3:worst advice you've heard or received. Worst advice I've ever heard. Worst advice. Worst advice, the worst advice I've ever gotten. Girl, I got ADHD. Don't do this, don't do what. My coping mechanism is to forget everything. So there's that shit. Worst advice that someone's ever given to me. You know what? Trust men, bitch. No trust a man. That's what I'm going with. No trust a man.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm going with. Why is that the worst?
Speaker 3:advice you've heard. Because why? I'm just kidding. I'm engaged, but don't trust most men. He's a good man. So, yeah, that's a terrible piece of advice. Men rule the world. What are we doing? Do you see what's going on? It's in flames. Don't trust men.
Speaker 2:Why is that the worst piece of advice?
Speaker 3:Because why trust a man?
Speaker 2:Why is that the worst piece?
Speaker 3:of advice, because men are crazy. Not me saying this. I have men listeners and I apologize, but we all know how crappy men are, and it's a good portion just saying, just saying sorry to all your men that are listening right now not girls, gays and days, though. So we're good, sorry anyway.
Speaker 2:Next one okay, she's not a fan of the men. On On that. Note three. What is something that you used to value that you no longer value?
Speaker 3:One thing I used to value that I no longer value. I would say, probably God, I don't know. Something I used to value. I would say maybe materialistic things would be the best thing, like I used to. I mean, this isn't necessarily materialistic, but like I used to just care about. You know, are my nails done, is? Do I have the nicest clothes? Do I have all of this? I don't give a fuck anymore. Slash value, slash care. If I have all of these things that everybody else has, I'm happy. That's all that matters, and I don't need anybody else to tell me whether or not I should be happy with the things I have or not. Fuck you, I don't care. Yeah, so I just I don't know. Maybe it happens when you start to get into your 30s. I'm 28, I'm getting there, the wrinkles is coming, bitch, they're coming oh my god, is it me am I the drama?
Speaker 3:I'm not the drama. Have you heard that tiktok? No, okay, I'll send it to you.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, go ahead, sorry if you could describe what you would want your legacy to be, as if someone were reading it, what would you want it to say?
Speaker 3:oh, if someone was reading my legacy, I think I would go to those first five questions, that I was passionate, gave a lot of people grace and always wanted to do what I can to help them in their lives. I'd say, yeah, I would say that and that I made people smile and that I was just a really fucking nice person I am, but not to stupid bitches, because don't say stupid stuff like corporate people, sorry the way you started.
Speaker 2:That I thought was really cool how you connected section words. I was like, okay, she's pretty cool. And then you're like I'm fucking nice, except for just shitty people, because this life's too short.
Speaker 3:Don't be an asshole. It's too short. I say that all the time because what are you doing like that's ghetto? Don't be mean, I'm ridiculous.
Speaker 2:So yeah, number five. If you could create one law in the world that everybody had to follow, what would it be? And I want to know why.
Speaker 3:One law that everybody had to. I would genuinely go back to saying be nice, and if you don't have any fucking thing nice to say, don't say it. People we don't Like. We get enough shit in our lives that you could literally just make or break someone by one comment, social media, in person, whatever, mind your shit. Don't say anything stupid. You don't know that person. You have no idea what's going on in their lives. Just be fucking nice or shut up. You don't have to say nothing. It's free. It really is free to just be quiet or be kind. Call it a day. So that would be my law. That's what I would do.
Speaker 2:I love your president, I completely agree with that, though growing up, my grandma used to always say to me if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all, even as a kid to other kids like just don't be mean, don't pick on each other, just shut up, just say nothing.
Speaker 3:It's worse now, I feel like. So I'm like everybody thinks that they can say something and I'm like bitch, no, you don't. You don't have to say that, be quiet. So yeah, I love those questions though well, thank you.
Speaker 2:Now I do have one more question for you, personal question. If you had the attention of the entire world for five minutes, what would you say?
Speaker 3:Fuck bitches, get money. No, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. Attention to, can we just be? Have you heard the song when Is the Love by Black Eyed Pe like? Have you heard the song when Is the Love by Black Eyed Peas? No, what's wrong with the world, mama? Okay, anyway, how old are you? Oh, no, ma'am, no, ma'am, no, that is an old song I was listening to.
Speaker 2:I listen to podcasts, so I don't have any reference when it comes to tv shows, movies and very minimal music. I'm a podcast kind of gal period, though, and I read some books or I listen to audio books?
Speaker 3:yeah, I've been trying, man, but yeah, the where's the love? Because, you see, we have all these, the stuff that's happening with Palestine, gaza, whatever, if I'm not mistaken, or just the wars going on. Sorry, because I don't want to misspeak, but it's. How did we get here? How did we get to such a terrible spot where we're literally okay seeing people have children their heads decapitated? How did that happen? Why are we not coming together as human beings and giving each other just that grace and knowing that we're just all humans having a or sorry, we're all souls having a human experience, I think is the way to say it? So just what the fuck happened? Why is this? Yeah, I don't know, but just why are we at this point? How did we get so lost in life right now? So, get your shit together and let's just get this shit figured out and calm down. Everybody needs to calm down. That's what I would say. Five minutes, that's the best I got.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, well, thank you, I appreciate it. Now, is there anything else you want to share With the listeners? Any final words of wisdom for them?
Speaker 3:I'd say my best words of wisdom is to go down my rabbit hole on TikTok. Not be promoting myself, but yeah, go down my playlist. I give you almost everything you need to know. The only thing you don't get from my TikToks is me being there with you. So through the entire job search and just yeah, so yeah, go off Queens. Also, don't let anybody tell you can't get a job that you want. Sorry, that's all I got.
Speaker 2:Okay, awesome, and now. Where else, besides TikTok, can the listeners connect with you?
Speaker 3:LinkedIn I live breathe. Listeners connect with you LinkedIn I live breathe. Eat sleep on LinkedIn.
Speaker 2:So LinkedIn is just Chelsea Davis with two stars one at the beginning, one at the end and two pink flowers one at the beginning and one at the end of my name Sounds good and I will link all of that in the show notes for you guys to click directly. And thank you so much for being here and joining me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3:No, anytime, girl, you know where I am. I love that.
Speaker 2:I had a lot of fun, thank you me too, oh, of course, and thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of mandu's mindset. In case no one told you today, I'm proud of you, I'm booting for you and you got this, as always. If you enjoyed the show, I would really appreciate it if you would leave me a five star rating, leave a and share it with anyone you think would benefit from this. And don't forget you are only one mindset. Shift away from shifting your life. Thanks guys, until next time.
